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Feb 2, 2020 06:32:15   #
Ron 717 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
kkdji1 wrote:
Hi. I upgraded from a D7100 to the D500 and for the first time I have committed to shooting in Raw. I am not interested in spending lots of time processing my photos but I do want to have the highest quality of photos to work with hence the switch from jpeg to raw. I have only ever used I-Photo software to process my photos. I am not finding it is able to handle raw files very well. My question is for those who are Nikon shooters, do you prefer the Nikon software or do you use another software? And for myself as a person new to any real PP is the Nikon software easy to learn? Also, I know once I decide on a software to use that I will spend some time on youtube looking for tutorials. I enjoy shooting wildlife with birds being my favorite. Thank you for any advice.
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I also upgraded from a D7100 to a D500 about a year ago, I have used the LR/PS Adobe package now for approx 4 years now. I highly recommend that package at a cost of $10.00 a month. I try to learn a new procedure in the PS portion each month, but in most cases most of my post processing is done in LR. Especially useful is the key wording portion of LR, if you are diligent about key wording every photo as you import the photos either individually or as a batch, you can easily call up any photo you want whenever you need it. It took me some time to look back at all of my older photos and add keywords to them, but it was worth the time.
As with any topic on here there will be posts that are positive on the Adobe subscription program and those that think it’s priced too high, but after investing in a Pro caliber camera and lenses, $10.00 a month is well worth the investment.

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Feb 2, 2020 07:25:08   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
kkdji1 wrote:
Hi. I upgraded from a D7100 to the D500 and for the first time I have committed to shooting in Raw. I am not interested in spending lots of time processing my photos but I do want to have the highest quality of photos to work with hence the switch from jpeg to raw. I have only ever used I-Photo software to process my photos. I am not finding it is able to handle raw files very well. My question is for those who are Nikon shooters, do you prefer the Nikon software or do you use another software? And for myself as a person new to any real PP is the Nikon software easy to learn? Also, I know once I decide on a software to use that I will spend some time on youtube looking for tutorials. I enjoy shooting wildlife with birds being my favorite. Thank you for any advice.
Hi. I upgraded from a D7100 to the D500 and for t... (show quote)


Go to the Nikon website and get the free NX software. In the future if you don't want to do a lot of work in post processing set your camera options for the highest quality Jpegs.

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Feb 2, 2020 07:49:13   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
I started using Photoshop in the early 90s. It is amazing software. To me, Lightroom is kinda like "Photoshop Light." But I admit that when I first tried the Nikon View and Capture combo, that was so easy (for me) to use that I have "mostly" stayed with it. I do enjoy opening a NEF files in Capture and then trying the different Nikon Picture Controls to see the different looks, much like using multiple film cameras to see how Kodachrome, Fujichrome, Agfachrome, etc all differed. Just my 2cents.

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Feb 2, 2020 07:58:16   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
Pay attention to chg cannon. I have been shooting about the same amount of time as you. I read the Hog and a lot of books most everyday. He is very knowledgeable and helpful. To put it simply he knows his stuff. That being said he also understands what he doesn't know and will point you to someone or somewhere to get the information he doesn't know. Good luck and happy shooting. P. S. I'm using the Nikon software which to me appears similar to lightroom in basic editing. I have very little pp skill but an learning slowly. I have used lightroom tutorials to lead me on Nikon software. Hope this helps.
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Feb 2, 2020 08:39:26   #
kkdji1
 
Thank you. Can you confirm my belief that shooting in raw is better if I am cropping my photos? And for clarification purposes would submitting some jpegs for review be to see how much pp the photo could use?

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Feb 2, 2020 08:40:41   #
kkdji1
 
Thank you!

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Feb 2, 2020 08:49:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
For some reason, every model camera needs different software to process its raw files. Adobe takes a little while to catch up with new camera models before they issue an update. I'm using Lightroom 6, so it won't support raw for any new cameras. There are alternatives, though.

Processing raw -
http://rawtherapee.com/
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5294-adobe-camera-raw.html
https://www.instructables.com/id/A-Complete-Beginners-Guide-to-Raw-Files-And-Raw-Pr/
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-process-and-edit-raw-files/

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Feb 2, 2020 08:57:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
kkdji1 wrote:
Thank you. Can you confirm my belief that shooting in raw is better if I am cropping my photos? And for clarification purposes would submitting some jpegs for review be to see how much pp the photo could use?


Without a quoted reply, we're all unsure who this question is intended for.

Regarding RAW and cropping, no, it has no positive nor negative impact. A digital image file is made up a number of pixels. That number of pixels is exactly the same, whether the file format is RAW or JPEG or TIFF or other. A 24MP sensor is typically 6000 x 4000 pixels. The resulting files from this sensor will also measure 6000x4000.

Regarding file sizes and post processing for review, it's a matter of 'it depends'. What's important is the file is large enough to 'see the details'. This older post explains how 2048px on the long size is a good approach to provide a full-screen image that balances the size of the file for relatively quick transfer. Recommended resizing parameters for digital images

You can post as large as 20MB to this site. "Bytes" do not have a direct relationship to "pixels", although in general, a larger pixel resolution will be a larger file size measured in bytes.

For processing, what's important is the maintain the EXIF data, data about the camera, lens, and exposure settings. An unmodified file directly from the camera will have all this information. Some editing tools will delete this data, losing the ability to understand the details behind the image. The data can be accessed only by storing the attachment. We'll know how / if your tool retains this information when an attachment is posted and saved.

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Feb 2, 2020 09:38:32   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
kkdji1 wrote:
Thank you. Can you confirm my belief that shooting in raw is better if I am cropping my photos? And for clarification purposes would submitting some jpegs for review be to see how much pp the photo could use?


If you have a jpg and only crop it, there is a small degradation of the image because the jpg has to be re-written (and therefore re-compressed). If you have a reasonably low compression and this is only a one-time change, the degradation will be neglible.

So yes, shooting raw would be better, but no, the "better" is not significantly so.

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Feb 2, 2020 09:48:08   #
uhaas2009
 
Till you know what you really need and like I would start with the Nikon software. Isn’t a difficult software.

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Feb 2, 2020 09:50:01   #
bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
kkdji1 wrote:
Hi. I upgraded from a D7100 to the D500 and for the first time I have committed to shooting in Raw. I am not interested in spending lots of time processing my photos but I do want to have the highest quality of photos to work with hence the switch from jpeg to raw. I have only ever used I-Photo software to process my photos. I am not finding it is able to handle raw files very well. My question is for those who are Nikon shooters, do you prefer the Nikon software or do you use another software? And for myself as a person new to any real PP is the Nikon software easy to learn? Also, I know once I decide on a software to use that I will spend some time on youtube looking for tutorials. I enjoy shooting wildlife with birds being my favorite. Thank you for any advice.
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I was a huge Capture NX2 fan. Still am and still use it but its not supported anymore and will not load on the new computers unless you "migrate" it and even that can be iffy. Also it will not support the newer Nikon Cameras but you can use Capture NX-D similar but not nearly as good or View NX-1 not really a fan of that one.
Capture NX-D is pretty straight forward and not that difficult to use. I don't think you would need Youtube for it.

I like Lightroom a lot but there is a learning curve with that.

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Feb 2, 2020 09:52:17   #
bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Your stated goals are in conflict. See rgrenaderphoto's comment.

When you become a RAW photographer, you become the decision maker for these considerations in post processing, where many had been decided by the camera for the JPEG:

1. Sharpening
2. Noise Reduction
3. Color Saturation
4. Exposure adjustments, general
5. Contrast, general
6. Highlights and shadows
7. White Balance
8. Lens corrections
9. Color space
10. Pixel resolution for target image share platforms
11. Disk storage (for the larger files)
12. Image file back-up strategy (for those larger files)

You don't have to understand all these issues, but when you do, you'll be much more successful as a RAW photographer.

If you don't want to do the 12 items above, you should resist the UHH peer pressure about RAW because you won't achieve better images just by setting the camera to RAW. Instead, consider whether a higher quality lens coupled with expert-level shooting technique are better approaches to achieve better JPEG results as compared to more computer time after shooting.
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Feb 2, 2020 09:56:02   #
bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
Drbobcameraguy wrote:
Pay attention to chg cannon. I have been shooting about the same amount of time as you. I read the Hog and a lot of books most everyday. He is very knowledgeable and helpful. To put it simply he knows his stuff. That being said he also understands what he doesn't know and will point you to someone or somewhere to get the information he doesn't know. Good luck and happy shooting. P. S. I'm using the Nikon software which to me appears similar to lightroom in basic editing. I have very little pp skill but an learning slowly. I have used lightroom tutorials to lead me on Nikon software. Hope this helps.
Pay attention to chg cannon. I have been shooting ... (show quote)


Agree with everything you said.

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Feb 2, 2020 09:57:27   #
bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
cameraf4 wrote:
I started using Photoshop in the early 90s. It is amazing software. To me, Lightroom is kinda like "Photoshop Light." But I admit that when I first tried the Nikon View and Capture combo, that was so easy (for me) to use that I have "mostly" stayed with it. I do enjoy opening a NEF files in Capture and then trying the different Nikon Picture Controls to see the different looks, much like using multiple film cameras to see how Kodachrome, Fujichrome, Agfachrome, etc all differed. Just my 2cents.
I started using Photoshop in the early 90s. It is ... (show quote)



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Feb 2, 2020 09:59:06   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
If, as you say, you are not interested in spending lots of time processing my photos, then why bother with RAW images? You are getting everything you need out of JPEGs.

You have several choices moving forward.
Ignore the Nikon software
Get Fastone Image Viewer which has rudimentary editing capabilities
ACDSee Pro has a free version with more than rudimentary editing capabilities.
Spend $10/month and graduate to the Bigs with Adobe.



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