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Jan 31, 2020 10:32:54   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
I would appreciate help with finding a link to help me move my iPhoto and Apple Elements library to Adobe Elements Organizer. I have an older version - Elements 14 - and before looking for a new Adobe photo processing program I want to move everything. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time, effort and expertise.

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Jan 31, 2020 11:23:33   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
"before looking for a new Adobe photo processing program"..... Like what? You may want to skip this step if it is temporary.

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Jan 31, 2020 11:35:06   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
bsprague wrote:
"before looking for a new Adobe photo processing program"..... Like what? You may want to skip this step if it is temporary.


My assumption was if I create a Library in Elements I could eventually attempt Lightroom. Since both are Adobe my thought is they are compatible. However, I could be wrong.

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Jan 31, 2020 13:20:44   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
GKarl wrote:
I would appreciate help with finding a link to help me move my iPhoto and Apple Elements library to Adobe Elements Organizer. I have an older version - Elements 14 - and before looking for a new Adobe photo processing program I want to move everything. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time, effort and expertise.


I bet Adobe support could give you all the information you need.

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Jan 31, 2020 13:27:36   #
GKarl Loc: Northern New Hampshire
 
Mac wrote:
I bet Adobe support could give you all the information you need.


I will call if I have to, but I was hoping to get information from someone who has already done the same thing. For clarification, the photo's are now in iPhoto and Apple Aperture programs. I made a mistake and typed Apple Elements in the initial post.

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Jan 31, 2020 13:33:08   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
GKarl wrote:
I will call if I have to, but I was hoping to get information from someone who has already done the same thing. For clarification, the photo's are now in iPhoto and Apple Aperture programs. I made a mistake and typed Apple Elements in the initial post.


It's Adobe's product, nobody here knows as much about it than they do.
A while back, in response to a post I made, Adobe users attested that Adobe support was the best there ever was.

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Feb 1, 2020 07:39:24   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
https://www.teachucomp.com/import-photos-from-photoshop-elements-into-lightroom-classic-cc-instructions/

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Feb 1, 2020 09:55:21   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
GKarl wrote:
My assumption was if I create a Library in Elements I could eventually attempt Lightroom. Since both are Adobe my thought is they are compatible. However, I could be wrong.


I know nothing about iComputers. Lightroom Classic does include a function to convert an Elements Organizer "catalog" to a Lightroom Classic catalog.

There is a user based, Adobe sponsored forum that would have a Mac and Elements users that should know this subject well.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-elements/bd-p/photoshop-elements?page=1&sort=relevance&filter=all

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Feb 1, 2020 11:13:19   #
don26812 Loc: South Bay of Los Angeles, CA
 
GKarl wrote:
My assumption was if I create a Library in Elements I could eventually attempt Lightroom. Since both are Adobe my thought is they are compatible. However, I could be wrong.


Lightroom Classic and Lightroom CC, both have a command to import a PSE Catalog. You can merge it with your existing Lightroom catalog if you have one. I have done it, and am happy with the results.

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Feb 1, 2020 13:13:16   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
GKarl wrote:
I will call if I have to, but I was hoping to get information from someone who has already done the same thing. For clarification, the photo's are now in iPhoto and Apple Aperture programs. I made a mistake and typed Apple Elements in the initial post.


Hi GKarl. I did try this change last year after "upgrading" to Mojave as Apple kept telling me Aperture wouldn't work anymore in future versions of OS X. I therefore downloaded trials of Adobe Elements, ON1 and others I can't remember the name of. I don't remember if any of them imported my iPhoto library - I have for some time saved my unedited originals to a seperate HDD so was able to import from there straight into the apps. I don't do a lot of editing - never will as its just not my thing. I shoot just as I did in the film days setting my camera to give me the results I want. Editing then is correcting horizons and a bit of cropping sometimes. Aperture was always great for this and these other editing apps were far too complicated and quite unnecessary for me. So cutting the long story short, I probably will never upgrade to Catalina, maybe even go back to High Sierra, and will continue using Aperture/iPhoto for the foreseeable future. If I need to shoot RAW then I use my cameras free software apps to convert to JPG then import into Aperture/iPhoto still retaining the original unedited file on my external HDD.

If you want to copy your original photos you can find them in iPhoto by clicking on "File", then going down and clicking on "Reveal in Finder". You can drag and drop the files to where you want them.

Cheers JohnR

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Feb 1, 2020 16:33:15   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
GKarl wrote:
I would appreciate help with finding a link to help me move my iPhoto and Apple Elements library to Adobe Elements Organizer. I have an older version - Elements 14 - and before looking for a new Adobe photo processing program I want to move everything. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you in advance for your time, effort and expertise.


Oh my you certainly waited a while to Jump from Aperture. Alas Aperture, RIP. I miss it.

I changed in 2014 after Apple announced the end of support for Aperture. Photos was a joke at that time. It was not simple there were no simple press the button solutions that would translate both keywords, ratings efficiently, and forget about the retouched versions. That will not translate. Using Aperture, I exported all my versions and moved them and the managed originals to an external library. It was a lot of work. For many years I could still use Aperture to find a legacy photo quickly, now Aperture will not run on my OS, it takes more time to find a legacy photo. But I can.

I suspect there are no conversion programs that will translate everything, including the retouching on versions. Now is the time to be prepared to do some work, exporting, while Aperture still works for you.

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Feb 1, 2020 18:00:17   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Organizer is not a file storage program. It sets a pointer to files in the computer's filing system to find those files that are requested. So there is no loading of the files into Organizer. In a Windows computer the files are still under File Explorer. Not sure what that is called on a Apple operating system. Usually when you first load the PSE program it will ask to "load" those files. Not sure how to establish the files in Organizer that have not been established with the program. If you can see the files in Organizer, they are already there.

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Feb 1, 2020 20:40:41   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Below is a good article about how to migrate out of Aperture using Apples Photos to recover the images and adjustments.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/08/12/how-to-see-and-import-your-aperture-photos-in-macos-catalina

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Feb 1, 2020 20:59:37   #
MJPerini
 
GKarl is correct there is no easy way to get all the functionality you had in Aperture to another program.
Some things that you CAN do would be to make a new database by first exporting originals on a project by project basis (into folders with similar names to your Aperture Projects) so you can find them easily.
If you have done extensive editing in Aperture, the only way to really preserve all that work would be to export the best VERSIONS of your files (say 4* or better) as 16bit TIFFs --- takes time and a lot of drive space.
The reason for this is that editing controls and adjustments are different in every program.

Say your project name in Aperture was 'Bermuda 2016' your new data base would Need a folder labeled the same "Bermuda 2016" Then sub folders for RAW, TIFFS 4*+, and Jpegs of the rest.

As for Keywords, some programs claim to be able to capture them, but I think it is spotty at best.

This is what I am doing, and I have gone as far as to freeze a computer at Sierra just for Aperture and bought a new one to run Capture 1-20.
Very few people will want to do this much work, but All my work is in Aperture and I have edited extensively and have 100,000 pictures in the library.
You can't stay in Aperture unless you never upgrade your computer and never buy a new camera (files won't be supported) Frustrating, but not the end of the world.

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Feb 1, 2020 21:06:18   #
MJPerini
 
PS as pointed out by JD 750 Apple Photos can read an Aperture library, and you CAN move them in, which may be enough for some folks, but you lose Lots of functionality, especially if you ever want to print- you lose the ability to take a version and specify color space & file type (I print from 16b TIFFs) etc.
Those things may or may not be important to you. Good Luck

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