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Have cameras become too smart
Dec 31, 2019 18:05:01 #
Ltgk20
Loc: Salisbury, NC
I like the automation. It frees me up to focus on the other aspects of photography. It also allows me to capture things I could not otherwise capture. If we dispense with automation then we're using film without auto-wiinders, without light meters, without windows in the back to remind us of the film asa, without auto focus, etc.
Dec 31, 2019 18:15:07 #
Leinik
Loc: Rochester NY
The issue may not be whether the cameras are getting smarter, but whether the users are getting dumber (because more numerous, less experienced, less likely to learn the basics of image-taking) by having their choices and creativity taken away from them by the technology, or rather because the camera-users (note I did not use "photographers") chose to let the technology make these choices for them. A really "smart" camera is one that also allows the user to make all the choices (exposure, focus, color balance,... and composition (soon to be automated I bet)) and whose technology can take over when those decisions are not so crucial for the result or because the user is not experienced/knowledgeable enough to make the right decisions for the right time/subject/intention. As far as I am concerned as long as I can still control every decision leading to the final image when I need to I do not mind that my cameras get smarter... because the problem is not cameras getting smarter ;o)
Dec 31, 2019 18:16:48 #
Leinik
Loc: Rochester NY
PS Ltgk20, I am not sure that using a light meter or a reminder of what medium is in the camera qualify for automation.
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Dec 31, 2019 18:17:42 #
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Dec 31, 2019 18:33:59 #
Every camera with a Professional Mode option available since the mid 70s has rivaled, if no exceeded, the smarts of the human.
Dec 31, 2019 19:09:54 #
I miss the days where the only option was fully manual and you chose your film speed by which roll of film you loaded. the only think I don't miss about it was the $1.50 it cost every time you clicked the shutter.
Dec 31, 2019 20:16:01 #
This reminds me of that tired old question: Why does my camera have video capability when I never do video?
I can't think of any automatic feature on my camera that I can't turn off if I want to, so, what's the problem?
I can't think of any automatic feature on my camera that I can't turn off if I want to, so, what's the problem?
Dec 31, 2019 20:43:50 #
JoeJoe wrote:
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No, cameras continue to improve, evolving with every new model to provide cool stuff and sometimes useful stuff. What you are seeing is a divergence - photographers seem to be devolving - regressing to a less advanced state . . .
Dec 31, 2019 22:02:31 #
Dec 31, 2019 22:05:57 #
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Dec 31, 2019 22:07:15 #
Dec 31, 2019 22:07:57 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.
Dec 31, 2019 23:06:41 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.
Yessir, well said.
Jan 1, 2020 00:22:42 #
JoeJoe wrote:
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So now we can make technically perfect, but subjectively empty photos, effortlessly. So what?
Folks, do you TAKE or MAKE your images? The answer is what separates cameras from people and tools from their users.
As capable as our cameras are, they still don’t have *mental* vision. You can change minds, record history, teach, accuse, amaze future generations who look back, inspire, make people think or feel, and so much more.
Or... you can randomly point and click...
In the 1980s, when I worked for a yearbook printer, we noted that camera automation nearly ruined yearbook candid photography, because student users SURRENDERED to it. While automation is far advanced from those days, it is still too stupid to do the whole job.
Cameras are tools. They aren’t yet sentient robots. We still need to THINK, react, make our compositions, control light, and pick our moments.
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