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Dec 30, 2019 13:16:52   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
I have a Nikon D750 that I’m very very happy with but looking for an excellent quality point and shoot to take on trips simple due to the weight and not lugging around so much equipment. I’ve heard Sony mak3s a great point and shoot but have never used a Sony. I want great image quality and the ability t9 shoot raw and bracket images. Suggestions?

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Dec 30, 2019 13:29:29   #
Jbat Loc: Charleston, SC
 
Sony has a great series in their RX100M. It now runs from M1 to M7. I have owned the RX100M3 and now the RX100M5. Both are great cameras and I am sure the M7 is also. The earlier models up thru the M5 are 24-70 range. I think the later two models are 24-200.
I own this camera for the exact purpose you are asking about. My RX100M5 is light, has a small flash built in, and most importantly to all to me, it has a view finder. The first two models did not have a viewfinder and I will not buy a camera without a viewfinder.
Take a look at these. They are not inexpensive but they are worth the money if you can afford to spend what they cost.

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Dec 30, 2019 13:39:47   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
jcwall396 wrote:
I have a Nikon D750 that I’m very very happy with but looking for an excellent quality point and shoot to take on trips simple due to the weight and not lugging around so much equipment. I’ve heard Sony mak3s a great point and shoot but have never used a Sony. I want great image quality and the ability t9 shoot raw and bracket images. Suggestions?


I know people like the Sonys, but I wouldn't sleep on Panasonic. The make great cameras at a much better price point than Sony.

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Dec 30, 2019 14:44:17   #
BebuLamar
 
Do you want a P&S or just a compact camera?

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Dec 30, 2019 15:59:17   #
User ID
 
SInce the OP doesn't spec a tiny shirt pocket
camera, I'll recommend a fine $600 camera
for the coat or jacket pocket. Lumix GX85. It
sometimes comes with the excellent but not
as compact 12-60 zoom [extra $200]. But for
your pocket, you want the kit with the 12-32
pancake and the included-at-no-charge small
tele zoom.

CAUTION: If you're not used to Lumix model
names, they often use VERY similar numbers
for VERY different models. This is NOT a G85.
It's a GX85 ... "X" is the pocketable model.

For pocket use, the cool thing about the 12-32
pancake is that unlike all other collapsible kit
zooms, this is not a fragile electric contraption.
It feels like a machine shop tool, solid, with its
muscle-operated mechanical collapsing system.

The GX85 is also one heck of a box, seemingly
worthy of a higher price tag. Formerly DID cost
more. It's 16mp, and m4/3 is generally going to
20mp across the board lately. At least you know
how the price came about, not by compromising
product integrity !

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Dec 30, 2019 16:10:23   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
User ID wrote:
SInce the OP doesn't spec a tiny shirt pocket
camera, I'll recommend a fine $600 camera
for the coat or jacket pocket. Lumix GX85. It
sometimes comes with the excellent but not
as compact 12-60 zoom [extra $200]. But for
your pocket, you want the kit with the 12-32
pancake and the included-at-no-charge small
tele zoom.

CAUTION: If you're not used to Lumix model
names, they often use VERY similar numbers
for VERY different models. This is NOT a G85.
It's a GX85 ... "X" is the pocketable model.

For pocket use, the cool thing about the 12-32
pancake is that unlike all other collapsible kit
zooms, this is not a fragile electric contraption.
It feels like a machine shop tool, solid, with its
muscle-operated mechanical collapsing system.

The GX85 is also one heck of a box, seemingly
worthy of a higher price tag. Formerly DID cost
more. It's 16mp, and m4/3 is generally going to
20mp across the board lately. At least you know
how the price came about, not by compromising
product integrity !
SInce the OP doesn't spec a tiny shirt pocket br ... (show quote)


It just so happens I have, not a GX85, but a G85 with the 12-60 lens, extra batteries, extra charger, case and other “kit candy”, (lens cleaning kit, SD card reader, I’ll even throw in a 32gb SD card). It also ha 4 years remaining on a drop/spill warranty. I’m planning on listing it this week.

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Dec 30, 2019 16:13:05   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
If you’re interested in Sony and want a bit of zoom in a compact camera, I recommend the Sony RX100 VI or VII. Not cheap, for sure, but worth the money. If zoom isn’t that important to you, the the Sony RX100 III or IV are good choices. They have shorter zoom—24-70, but a faster lens—f/1.8-2.8. The RX100IV is very good for video. If you want to spend less money and, again, if long zoom isn’t needed, the Canon G5X MKII is a great choice. it’s not cheap either, just less than the Sony RX100 VI and VII. Zooms to 120mm. These all have 1” type sensors. For even less money, the Panasonic Lumix ZS100 and 200 are good cameras. The 100 zooms to 250mm and the 200 zooms to 360mm, but the lens is slower. All of these are compact cameras that will fit in a generous shirt pocket or jacket pocket, and all have an EVF and 1” type sensors and shoot RAW and JPEG. They are all good buys, even at a high price point.

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Dec 30, 2019 16:39:53   #
jwreed50 Loc: Manassas, VA
 
Leica D-Lux 7:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1445092-REG/leica_19116_d_lux_7_digital_camera.html

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Dec 30, 2019 17:19:19   #
User ID
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:

It just so happens I have, not a GX85, but a G85 with
the 12-60 lens, extra batteries, extra charger, case and
other “kit candy”, (lens cleaning kit, SD card reader, I’ll
even throw in a 32gb SD card). It also ha 4 years
remaining on a drop/spill warranty. I’m planning on
listing it this week.


Being a huge Lumix Freak I also have one. If it isn't
too big for the OP, he would love it. What's NOT to
love ??? We still don't know what size limit he's set.

The G85 with 12-20 is quite small, and versatile for
travel, but it's just a little bit beyond pocket size. In
a handy little kit bag with a few spare batteries you
couldn't ask for a better travel companion.

All the included extras are worthwhile, too. Question
hangs as to truly pocketable, or just really compact.
That still remains a mystery.

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Dec 30, 2019 17:52:49   #
Seabastes
 
It is my understanding that the Panasonic Lumix GX85 is a discontinued model. The price dropped from nearly a $1,000 with the 12-32 and 45-150 lenses to about $400 several months ago. The price has come back up to around $600 for this excellent 4/3rds camera. The salesman was rather vague when I asked why the price had dropped so low. I've forgiven him as I like this camera so well I want a second body. The 12-32 lens would make it pockable. I use the 45-150 lens on mine which is not, but sling out under my left arm. when carrying it.

For a truly pocketable camera I would suggest a model that has a fairly w/a to medium telephoto. I have had Panasonic Lumix models LX2, LX5 that have served me well. Sony makes excellent models as well. It is best to get a model with an electronic viewfinder due to difficulty framing images with the LCD in bright sunlight.

The control settings on the GX85 can easily be accidentally bumped which requires re-setting to the factory settings which allow both rangefinder and LCD viewing. It only takes a second too reset.

I have attached an image down with the GX85 at an ISO of 3200 at about 60 MM at 1/15 second handheld. (120 MM in 35MM)


(Download)

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Dec 30, 2019 18:18:12   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
First, thanks for all the great info and quick replies! I should have mentioned a couple of things....price is not a barrier. I have no problem spending $1500 for a camera if it does what I want. My main concern is first quality followed by portability. I don't want a bridge camera, so what I consider a "point and shoot" is something like the Sony RX100 series, which I understand are very good cameras, or the Panasonic Lumix ZS100. Definitely would like a 1" sensor - the Nikon D750 has me spoiled. I don't want to go the route of a mirrorless simply because that would "feed my need" to buy every kind of lens made for the camera! I have enough "stuff" - just want something that isn't a whole lot to carry. I'm 63 and just don't want to carry as much as I have in the past....

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Dec 30, 2019 18:24:27   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
Your pup is adorable!

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Dec 30, 2019 18:27:38   #
BebuLamar
 
jcwall396 wrote:
First, thanks for all the great info and quick replies! I should have mentioned a couple of things....price is not a barrier. I have no problem spending $1500 for a camera if it does what I want. My main concern is first quality followed by portability. I don't want a bridge camera, so what I consider a "point and shoot" is something like the Sony RX100 series, which I understand are very good cameras, or the Panasonic Lumix ZS100. Definitely would like a 1" sensor - the Nikon D750 has me spoiled. I don't want to go the route of a mirrorless simply because that would "feed my need" to buy every kind of lens made for the camera! I have enough "stuff" - just want something that isn't a whole lot to carry. I'm 63 and just don't want to carry as much as I have in the past....
First, thanks for all the great info and quick rep... (show quote)


It's about definition here! If you don't consider the Sony RX100 or the Pana ZS100 as bridge cameras then how do you define bridge cameras? And how do you define Point and Shoot?

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Dec 30, 2019 18:33:35   #
Seabastes
 
jcwall396 wrote:
Your pup is adorable!


Daisy is a rescue dog and has brought joy to us old folks.

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Dec 30, 2019 18:50:06   #
jcwall396 Loc: Roswell, GA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
It's about definition here! If you don't consider the Sony RX100 or the Pana ZS100 as bridge cameras then how do you define bridge cameras? And how do you define Point and Shoot?


I'm not sure how else to explain it. How about this: I have a Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 - it's kind of a "chunk" and I consider that a bridge camera. The Sony RX100 series and the Lumix ZS100 look like they will fit in a large coat pocket. Does that make sense? That's the terminology I've always thought was "correct".

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