What is a Russian
Dec 28, 2019 06:36:29 #
I have friends in Russia and I asked this question and this is what I got back.
Very enlightening. Translated from Russian.
"Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation - Tatars, baškíri, kalmyks, uyghurs, čečeni, kareli and others, and there are about hundreds of them in the Russian Federation, which are exactly
Russkíê is the vihídcí of the same and other peoples, but the ínfíkovaní of the ideology measure. I mean, russkím can be who. The meanest of russkíh, for us, Ukrainians, is a vihídecʹ from Ukraine.
This is how the Russians vislovilisʹ about russkíh:
" about the Russians. This is not a nation. The Russians do not have their own national education. Have you heard anything about the Russian National Republic? And you won't hear - there are no such. There are tatar, bashkir, chechen and other republics. And the Russians only have an empire with the conquered population, where they make up its glue - a serving people.
Russian is not a nationality, it is a social estate. Is it possible to call a thief community nationality? Having the language they speak, having a thug culture is not enough. Is it possible to call the nationality of Roman Legionaries? The sense of a single community and psychology of the conqueror is not enough. Is it possible to call the nationality of janissaries? Many years of traditions, customs, lifestyle are not enough.
Any nationalist is devoted, first and foremost, to his nation, and only as a consequence, to the sovereign and the power, if they ensure its security. The Russians, being not an ethnic group, but servants, janissaries, are loyal to the sovereign and the power, even if they torture and destroy the people under them.
Russian is not a subject, not a noun's name. This is an object, the name is an adjective. Adjective to the earth. To the master of this land. To the state. To the autocracy of this state. The subject is a personality, he has his own will and freedom to realize it. An object is a non-free creature that does the will of the master.
The task of the Russians is not to make their land blooming, not to make the life of the people happier. Their task is to die, but to capture new spaces and resources for their owner. Destroy the blooming edges, but to master them. They are proud of their trophies (my master and I have so much land! ), they are proud of his power (my master and I have such a whip! ), they are proud of his wealth (my master and I have such a great palace! ). Although there is nothing "them" there, and they themselves are only disenfranchised talking dogs on the owner's chain. Consumables. Gunpowder, enthusiastically turning into ashes.
Slaves by status and holui by vocation, Russians are ready to carry any humiliation, hardships and hardships, to put their children on the altar of conquests. And they are ready to rest in the nameless graves on the alien. Only the master would be good if he would grow new lands and new slaves. And we do not live in a human way, and we will not allow others!
Since the Russians are not ethnic, they do not have their ethnic roots. In the process of expansion, the empire in the Russians entered all who fell into its tender legs, who in some generation renounced their ethnicity. The first Russians were not particularly resisting erzya, the whole, muroma, moksha and the ugric-Fins with them. Although the real empire of the Russians began with the submission of Ukraine.
The formation of an empire requires a sense of unity of all its subjects. With the task of unity of faith, the ancient princes, and then the sovereigners, with fire and sword suppressed the different belief. It turned out to be harder to cope with the voice of blood, with ethnic unification. The feeling of its differently, the feeling of alieness of the dominant quasiethnic nos posed the main danger to both the state and the backbone of its structure - the Russians. And the Russians subconsciously, to the genetic level feel this threat.
Therefore, the eradication of any national spirit has always been a matter for the Russians the survival of their exploitative system. Everything was in progress - bribery, ridicule, rejointing names and surnames, prohibition of the press in national languages, deadly accusation of nationalism, falsification of history. What did not finish the Russian bayonet, the Russian pop, a Russian teacher and a Russian official were finished.
Among every people under the empire, there are always holuys who want to voluntarily abandon their ethnic groups and become serving for personal benefits or under the influence of propaganda. Those who do not want to become holuâmi cause a sense of misunderstanding and indignation, cause a sense of Audacious Challenge, and actively opposition are accused of betrayal.
" like this, they don't want to become Russian! Well, they don't want to be involved in a noble society by their stupidity. They want to remain men, untermenshami, just to preserve their funny language, wonderful culture, anarchic self-organization instead of centralized caste, self-sufficiency instead of feeding. So to be, by our generosity we are ready to endure you Tami - Semi-finished products, Unfinished Russians, small roses. But there is no way to consider a separate, independent people, equal to other peoples."
That is why Russians are so angry and introduced into the paduchuchuchuya names of Ivan Mazepa, Simon Petlyura, Stepan Bandera. Not the blood of the Ukrainian people, spilled for freedom, not the blood of the enslaver, spilled for holding the best piece of prey, that bubbling their outraged guts. Blood is nothing, the more bloody the ruler, the more he is authoritative for the Russians. No, the main nerve of the Russian master will hurt here - a healthy awareness of the enslaved nation of his being, demonstration of its unconquered National Spirit, the desire to escape from imperial captivity.
That is why Ukrainian words freedom (will), Independence (Independence) and consciousness (consciousness) cause them a fierce malice: " you look, they want to live without a woven and without decrees of the king!" that's why they are so puffs and hooks from videos Maidan: " the smerds have rebelled! Running to the polish and Swedes! Traitors! Who will we command and who will we feed from? In the stall of them!"
Russianity is a way of thinking. Thinking of the outdated, Savage, condemning space of Russia to eternal hopelessness, and its neighbors - to eternal samopal behind the belt.
And once again I remind you: the concept of " Russkíê " and " Russians " are different things.
Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation - Tatars, baškíri, kalmyks, uyghurs, čečeni, kareli and others, and there are about hundreds of them in the Russian Federation, which are exactly
Russkíê is a vihídcí of the same peoples and other peoples, but the ínfíkovaní of the ideology measure. Russkím can be who. The meanest of russkíh, for us, Ukrainians, is a vihídecʹ from Ukraine."
Very enlightening. Translated from Russian.
"Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation - Tatars, baškíri, kalmyks, uyghurs, čečeni, kareli and others, and there are about hundreds of them in the Russian Federation, which are exactly
Russkíê is the vihídcí of the same and other peoples, but the ínfíkovaní of the ideology measure. I mean, russkím can be who. The meanest of russkíh, for us, Ukrainians, is a vihídecʹ from Ukraine.
This is how the Russians vislovilisʹ about russkíh:
" about the Russians. This is not a nation. The Russians do not have their own national education. Have you heard anything about the Russian National Republic? And you won't hear - there are no such. There are tatar, bashkir, chechen and other republics. And the Russians only have an empire with the conquered population, where they make up its glue - a serving people.
Russian is not a nationality, it is a social estate. Is it possible to call a thief community nationality? Having the language they speak, having a thug culture is not enough. Is it possible to call the nationality of Roman Legionaries? The sense of a single community and psychology of the conqueror is not enough. Is it possible to call the nationality of janissaries? Many years of traditions, customs, lifestyle are not enough.
Any nationalist is devoted, first and foremost, to his nation, and only as a consequence, to the sovereign and the power, if they ensure its security. The Russians, being not an ethnic group, but servants, janissaries, are loyal to the sovereign and the power, even if they torture and destroy the people under them.
Russian is not a subject, not a noun's name. This is an object, the name is an adjective. Adjective to the earth. To the master of this land. To the state. To the autocracy of this state. The subject is a personality, he has his own will and freedom to realize it. An object is a non-free creature that does the will of the master.
The task of the Russians is not to make their land blooming, not to make the life of the people happier. Their task is to die, but to capture new spaces and resources for their owner. Destroy the blooming edges, but to master them. They are proud of their trophies (my master and I have so much land! ), they are proud of his power (my master and I have such a whip! ), they are proud of his wealth (my master and I have such a great palace! ). Although there is nothing "them" there, and they themselves are only disenfranchised talking dogs on the owner's chain. Consumables. Gunpowder, enthusiastically turning into ashes.
Slaves by status and holui by vocation, Russians are ready to carry any humiliation, hardships and hardships, to put their children on the altar of conquests. And they are ready to rest in the nameless graves on the alien. Only the master would be good if he would grow new lands and new slaves. And we do not live in a human way, and we will not allow others!
Since the Russians are not ethnic, they do not have their ethnic roots. In the process of expansion, the empire in the Russians entered all who fell into its tender legs, who in some generation renounced their ethnicity. The first Russians were not particularly resisting erzya, the whole, muroma, moksha and the ugric-Fins with them. Although the real empire of the Russians began with the submission of Ukraine.
The formation of an empire requires a sense of unity of all its subjects. With the task of unity of faith, the ancient princes, and then the sovereigners, with fire and sword suppressed the different belief. It turned out to be harder to cope with the voice of blood, with ethnic unification. The feeling of its differently, the feeling of alieness of the dominant quasiethnic nos posed the main danger to both the state and the backbone of its structure - the Russians. And the Russians subconsciously, to the genetic level feel this threat.
Therefore, the eradication of any national spirit has always been a matter for the Russians the survival of their exploitative system. Everything was in progress - bribery, ridicule, rejointing names and surnames, prohibition of the press in national languages, deadly accusation of nationalism, falsification of history. What did not finish the Russian bayonet, the Russian pop, a Russian teacher and a Russian official were finished.
Among every people under the empire, there are always holuys who want to voluntarily abandon their ethnic groups and become serving for personal benefits or under the influence of propaganda. Those who do not want to become holuâmi cause a sense of misunderstanding and indignation, cause a sense of Audacious Challenge, and actively opposition are accused of betrayal.
" like this, they don't want to become Russian! Well, they don't want to be involved in a noble society by their stupidity. They want to remain men, untermenshami, just to preserve their funny language, wonderful culture, anarchic self-organization instead of centralized caste, self-sufficiency instead of feeding. So to be, by our generosity we are ready to endure you Tami - Semi-finished products, Unfinished Russians, small roses. But there is no way to consider a separate, independent people, equal to other peoples."
That is why Russians are so angry and introduced into the paduchuchuchuya names of Ivan Mazepa, Simon Petlyura, Stepan Bandera. Not the blood of the Ukrainian people, spilled for freedom, not the blood of the enslaver, spilled for holding the best piece of prey, that bubbling their outraged guts. Blood is nothing, the more bloody the ruler, the more he is authoritative for the Russians. No, the main nerve of the Russian master will hurt here - a healthy awareness of the enslaved nation of his being, demonstration of its unconquered National Spirit, the desire to escape from imperial captivity.
That is why Ukrainian words freedom (will), Independence (Independence) and consciousness (consciousness) cause them a fierce malice: " you look, they want to live without a woven and without decrees of the king!" that's why they are so puffs and hooks from videos Maidan: " the smerds have rebelled! Running to the polish and Swedes! Traitors! Who will we command and who will we feed from? In the stall of them!"
Russianity is a way of thinking. Thinking of the outdated, Savage, condemning space of Russia to eternal hopelessness, and its neighbors - to eternal samopal behind the belt.
And once again I remind you: the concept of " Russkíê " and " Russians " are different things.
Russians are citizens of the Russian Federation - Tatars, baškíri, kalmyks, uyghurs, čečeni, kareli and others, and there are about hundreds of them in the Russian Federation, which are exactly
Russkíê is a vihídcí of the same peoples and other peoples, but the ínfíkovaní of the ideology measure. Russkím can be who. The meanest of russkíh, for us, Ukrainians, is a vihídecʹ from Ukraine."
Dec 28, 2019 06:45:44 #
Dec 28, 2019 06:54:55 #
ClarkG wrote:
Interesting? Why is this on a Photography Blog?
You are confused, General Chit Chat is NOT for photography but other subjects.
Look at the heading.
Dec 28, 2019 07:42:11 #
Dec 28, 2019 07:47:23 #
Todd1959 wrote:
Puzzles me too
What part of "General Chit-Chat (Non Photography Talk)" confuses you?
If it does confuse you perhaps you need to leave this blog because if this confuses you the "Attic" will totally blow your mind.
Dec 28, 2019 08:08:55 #
ClarkG wrote:
Interesting? Why is this on a Photography Blog?
It’s not--it’s in General Chit-Chat.
I find it interesting.
Dec 28, 2019 08:12:53 #
jaymatt wrote:
It’s not--it’s in General Chit-Chat.
I find it interesting.
I find it interesting.
Dec 28, 2019 08:20:32 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I have friends in Russia and I asked this question... (show quote)
And your personal “friends” in Russia wrote this and sent it to you after you asked a simple question?
Dec 28, 2019 08:21:09 #
tommy2
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
Todd1959 wrote:
Puzzles me too
Our families experience with this "puzzling" type of people is exactly what is written above.
A few years ago a Batchelor nephew met and married a girl who told us directly she had come to the U.S. to marry a rich doctor. She did and has continually maneuvered her way into his fortune and immediate family who are all good people. She has taken advantage of them to the fullest extent, has brought her parents to the U.S. and bought them a rather large house too.
Now just a couple years later she is getting rid of her house which is quite large to buy an even larger one in a more posh part of the state which will cause her husband to travel quite a distance to his work as well as stay in that area during the week.
She has two young children, 5 and 3 years old, who are being brought up in a Russian speaking community - she does not want her husband to learn the language too. Her parents, both former members of the KGB, are teaching the boys to be very aggressive. Other family children are not allowed to visit their house and usually don't attend family functions where they have been abused before.
Even though we live about a thousand miles away she tries to include us in "helping" her have a good life. Our brother and sister-in-law both have told us to beware of her intentions. Sort of a cancer happening in overt life.
Dec 28, 2019 08:31:55 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I have friends in Russia and I asked this question... (show quote)
Being half Mordvin and half Ukrainian, born outside the former Iron Curtain, I and many who are outside the Soviet "influence" sphere disagree with the story told. We do not ignore History.
"vihidec", "comes from (or out of)", is like saying someone is "Southern" by virtue of being born and raised in, say, Alabama.
Mordva and Ukraine are very distinct and separate in terms of language, customs, History. They are separate countries. Just as Portugal and Spain, albeit on the Iberian peninsula, are not the same country.
Dec 28, 2019 10:31:07 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
And your personal “friends” in Russia wrote this and sent it to you after you asked a simple question?
Get lost.
No comprehension of previous discussions and relationships.
Only haters would ask such an inane question.
Stay in the Attic where you belong with your hatred.
Dec 28, 2019 10:31:58 #
Stephan G wrote:
Being half Mordvin and half Ukrainian, born outsid... (show quote)
This is exactly the point of the answer and discussion. Amazes me the hatred and sarcastic responses generated by providing some result of a conversation over time.
Dec 28, 2019 16:21:14 #
Interesting question: "What is a Russian"
As a history major:
My take is that RUSSIANS are in general just like the rest of us good decent folk - many of whom have authored my personal favorite Literature & Music - Who have also for the last 1500 yrs or so been systematically screwed out of their human inheritance to live their lives as free Men & Woman
As a history major:
My take is that RUSSIANS are in general just like the rest of us good decent folk - many of whom have authored my personal favorite Literature & Music - Who have also for the last 1500 yrs or so been systematically screwed out of their human inheritance to live their lives as free Men & Woman
Dec 28, 2019 21:15:56 #
If you want a glimpse into Russia from the perspective of the value of human life, I suggest viewing the series “Chernobyl “ or the movie U571, the widowmaker. Very illuminating and based on facts, not propaganda.
Dec 28, 2019 21:21:14 #
TriX wrote:
If you want a glimpse into Russia from the perspective of the value of human life, I suggest viewing the series “Chernobyl “ or the movie U571, the widowmaker. Very illuminating and based on facts, not propaganda.
Or for that matter --- Anything written by: Vasily Grossman -- Especially "Life and Fate"
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