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Oct 20, 2019 23:15:35   #
JW S
 
I have ORDERED two (2) Dell Monitors through Amazon.

............. These are LED-Lit as opposed to LED ..........

I worry about the LED-Lit vs LED ........... Any comments??


The Amazon price when I ordered was $288.95 each with only a few minutes left in the sale price. I don't like to rush a purchase, but B&H is listing this monitor at $499.99


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075KGLYRL/ref=psdc_1292115011_t4_B07HKKWDZY


I just can't find a real explanation about the LED-Lit and how it will (or will not) affect my editing with Lightroom / Photoshop. (95% Lightroom)

Thanks for any comments.... I have about 5 days before it ships, so I can always cancel the order.

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Oct 21, 2019 01:06:36   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
It basically means the back lighting uses LED'S instead of florescent. It is more modern than LCD's back lit by florescent light. It will not effect Lightroom or Photoshop.

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Oct 21, 2019 05:41:00   #
BebuLamar
 
Although they make OLED TV's and Cell Phone I don't think they made OLED monitor yet. So any LED mention with monitor is just LED back light.

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Oct 21, 2019 06:24:42   #
dave.m
 
I think they are different words for the same thing? Large monitors have back lighting. Used to be fluorescent but now LED. If both monitors are Dell just check specs on their web site and see what words they use. LED is much better than fluorescent in my opinion - no warm up time to stable colour, lower wattage by far, lasts much longer before colour degradation (look at old monitor and most are positively off white!)

Bottom line (probably :) if it looks good when set up then who cares how its done. Calibrate the monitor to start, at least with microsoft monitor calibration. Test in a darkened room, use a blanket colour (I used to have an app that cycled though primary and secondary colours, and black and white to check for dead or hot pixels. Look for backlight 'bleed' on a black screen, Ikf the black is not even all over. Dunno if it works with other monitors but Eizo have a comprehensive monitor check app on line which is very thorough
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/

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Oct 21, 2019 23:27:47   #
JW S
 
Thank you for your replies!!!

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Oct 21, 2019 23:56:19   #
JW S
 
dave.m wrote:
I think they are different words for the same thing? Large monitors have back lighting. Used to be fluorescent but now LED. If both monitors are Dell just check specs on their web site and see what words they use. LED is much better than fluorescent in my opinion - no warm up time to stable colour, lower wattage by far, lasts much longer before colour degradation (look at old monitor and most are positively off white!)

Bottom line (probably :) if it looks good when set up then who cares how its done. Calibrate the monitor to start, at least with microsoft monitor calibration. Test in a darkened room, use a blanket colour (I used to have an app that cycled though primary and secondary colours, and black and white to check for dead or hot pixels. Look for backlight 'bleed' on a black screen, Ikf the black is not even all over. Dunno if it works with other monitors but Eizo have a comprehensive monitor check app on line which is very thorough
https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/
I think they are different words for the same thin... (show quote)


Thank you Dave. Well, I clicked on and took the Test in the LINK you provided. And according to that test, my 8 year old Dell monitor is in excellent shape! ..... I sure hope I am not spending $600 when it's not needed! The problem I've been having is that What I see on my monitor is NEVER the same image that people see on their phones or computer monitors. And, It's not what's printed either... I have calibrated with i1 Display Pro Xrite calibrator, but the results still seem off.

This was a good LINK and I will use it to test the two monitors side by side before and after I calibrate them.

Thanks again

John

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Oct 22, 2019 05:20:07   #
dave.m
 
I spent MONTHS trying to square that circle!!!

* Things that matter - phones are not calibrated and tend to be too blue as it makes whites look whiter. (Samsung actually have a blue filter option on my phone which when enabled makes whites look off, but once I got used to it I realised the colours were much better - also very good for the eyes apparently)
* only keen photographers typically calibrate their monitors so there is an immediate mismatch potential with anything that is not.
* I have a ColorMunki that calibrates screen and printer. The printer option is ok but not perfect. In the end I paid to have my printer calibrated for my ink and the papers I use. Just printed off their test files, posted of, and calibration files emailed. Results much much better.
* if camera / phone, processing PC, and printer driver are using different colour spaces you will get issues with colour. I always use RAW so standardised (eventually) on adobe RGB and got a monitor from EIZO that supported most of adobe RGB (most support sRGB so that may be a better colour space choice? Although colour space with RAW files is a processing choice it isn't once converted to JPEG for distribution/ printing - once the conversion merges/omits colours there is no way to get them back.
* prints especially will only show a fraction of either sRGB or adobe RGB so will seldom

There are a million references on the web on this problem but a couple I found really helpful in my quest for monitor = print are below. The guy is a pro photographer who knows his stuff!
Another incredible resource has to be Cambridge in Colour.

The problem with both is that a 10 minute quick look quickly becomes another interesting evening of investigation. Computer-assisted-time-wasting at its very best :)


http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/why-prints-look-wrong/
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-test-images/
https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/

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Oct 22, 2019 06:32:06   #
Hamltnblue Loc: Springfield PA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Although they make OLED TV's and Cell Phone I don't think they made OLED monitor yet. So any LED mention with monitor is just LED back light.


https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/

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Oct 22, 2019 10:56:24   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Although they make OLED TV's and Cell Phone I don't think they made OLED monitor yet. So any LED mention with monitor is just LED back light.


The blue fade and image retention (burn in) problems will have to be worked out before you'll see OLED computer displays. They are brighter and absolutely gorgeous when new, though. I have a 3 yr old Google Pixel phone that has deteriorated significantly over the past 3 yrs. It has an OLED screen.

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Oct 22, 2019 10:59:40   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
It basically means the back lighting uses LED'S instead of florescent. It is more modern than LCD's back lit by florescent light. It will not effect Lightroom or Photoshop.


There are also white LED and RGB LED backlighting - the RGB version is used in higher end displays, since they can be adjusted locally and with more precision.

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Oct 22, 2019 22:07:57   #
JW S
 
dave.m wrote:
I spent MONTHS trying to square that circle!!!

* Things that matter - phones are not calibrated and tend to be too blue as it makes whites look whiter. (Samsung actually have a blue filter option on my phone which when enabled makes whites look off, but once I got used to it I realised the colours were much better - also very good for the eyes apparently)
* only keen photographers typically calibrate their monitors so there is an immediate mismatch potential with anything that is not.
* I have a ColorMunki that calibrates screen and printer. The printer option is ok but not perfect. In the end I paid to have my printer calibrated for my ink and the papers I use. Just printed off their test files, posted of, and calibration files emailed. Results much much better.
* if camera / phone, processing PC, and printer driver are using different colour spaces you will get issues with colour. I always use RAW so standardised (eventually) on adobe RGB and got a monitor from EIZO that supported most of adobe RGB (most support sRGB so that may be a better colour space choice? Although colour space with RAW files is a processing choice it isn't once converted to JPEG for distribution/ printing - once the conversion merges/omits colours there is no way to get them back.
* prints especially will only show a fraction of either sRGB or adobe RGB so will seldom

There are a million references on the web on this problem but a couple I found really helpful in my quest for monitor = print are below. The guy is a pro photographer who knows his stuff!
Another incredible resource has to be Cambridge in Colour.

The problem with both is that a 10 minute quick look quickly becomes another interesting evening of investigation. Computer-assisted-time-wasting at its very best :)


http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/why-prints-look-wrong/
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-test-images/
https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/
I spent MONTHS trying to square that circle!!! br ... (show quote)



Lots of good information here ..... Thanks for the LINKS!!!

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