Adobe CC and Apple OSX upgrade... IMPORTANT
Apple has just announced an upgrade to the Mac operating system... from Mojave to Catalina. But the new OSX will not support many older apps using 32 bit... and I saw Creative Cloud on the list.
I just called Adobe about that and was told NOT TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA. They said to wait for whatever will come next.
Barry
So a software company is recommending that users do not upgrade their OS? I'm not a MAC or Windows user, but I'm sure an OS upgrade has important security updates as well as code re-writes that might be important to the systems health.
bbrowner wrote:
Apple has just announced an upgrade to the Mac operating system... from Mojave to Catalina. But the new OSX will not support many older apps using 32 bit... and I saw Creative Cloud on the list.
I just called Adobe about that and was told NOT TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA. They said to wait for whatever will come next.
Barry
Give them 3-4 months. Both Apple and Adobe still have some de-bugging to do.
johngault007 wrote:
So a software company is recommending that users do not upgrade their OS? I'm not a MAC or Windows user, but I'm sure an OS upgrade has important security updates as well as code re-writes that might be important to the systems health.
Right. The Apple OS developers, working in secret, make improvements. The Adobe developers can't know what's coming. The same thing happens with Nikon, Canon, etc. They come out with a new camera and keep the RAW format secret. Photo editing companies, like Adobe, have to sort it out after the unveiling of the new camera.
It might be more accurate to say that a software company is recommending users don't upgrade their OS right now. Wait a little bit.
bbrowner wrote:
Apple has just announced an upgrade to the Mac operating system... from Mojave to Catalina. But the new OSX will not support many older apps using 32 bit... and I saw Creative Cloud on the list.
I just called Adobe about that and was told NOT TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA. They said to wait for whatever will come next.
Barry
FWIW....
I upgraded as soon as I could from Mojave to Catalina. I subscribe to the Adobe CC plan and make use of Lightroom, Bridge & Photoshop along with ON1 Raw 2019, DxO Photolab and various plugins from Nik, Topaz, Skylum and others everyday.
Since my upgrade to Catalina, only a few of my apps stopped working, all older 32 bit apps that I already had replacements for or had not used for awhile under Mojave anyway.
Am having no issues running Catalina on my Late 2015 5k iMac.
While some may have issues due to their particular systems, hardware and software in use, it is not as much doom and gloom as some articles and people might want you to think.
Apple had provided plenty of notice to users and vendors of the coming change, it should not have been a surprise to anyone that 32 bit apps stopped with Catalina. No excuse for any software company to have been caught off guard ;)
BTW - What will come next will be a higher rev of Catalina....it will be a full year before there is a new OS....and most likely the same vendors will not be ready for it either ;)
bsprague wrote:
Right. The Apple OS developers, working in secret, make improvements. The Adobe developers can't know what's coming. The same thing happens with Nikon, Canon, etc. They come out with a new camera and keep the RAW format secret. Photo editing companies, like Adobe, have to sort it out after the unveiling of the new camera.
It might be more accurate to say that a software company is recommending users don't upgrade their OS right now. Wait a little bit.
Yes, I understand the work flow of software, but the format of a RAW file and dismissing major security updates are two very different topics.
From a quick 2 minute search for the security fixes I found a list of fairly significant list that Catalina addresses. Of course, it's the user that needs to be aware and assume the risk if they leave the vulnerabilities unpatched (Windows or Apple).
Again, I don't use any of it, but making users aware of best security practices shouldn't be left unsaid. Or worse, taking a 3rd part software company's advice and not understanding the inherent security risks.
From:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/these-are-the-macos-catalina-10-15-security-updates-you-need-to-know-aboutCVE-2019-8748
CVE-2019-8758
CVE-2019-8717
CVE-2019-8781
CVE-2019-8755
johngault007 wrote:
Yes, I understand the work flow of software, but the format of a RAW file and dismissing major security updates are two very different topics.
From a quick 2 minute search for the security fixes I found a list of fairly significant list that Catalina addresses. Of course, it's the user that needs to be aware and assume the risk if they leave the vulnerabilities unpatched (Windows or Apple).
Again, I don't use any of it, but making users aware of best security practices shouldn't be left unsaid. Or worse, taking a 3rd part software company's advice and not understanding the inherent security risks.
From:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/these-are-the-macos-catalina-10-15-security-updates-you-need-to-know-aboutCVE-2019-8748
CVE-2019-8758
CVE-2019-8717
CVE-2019-8781
CVE-2019-8755
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Yes, these days, with Connectivity worldwide 24x7 it is never wise to remain on older outdated/unsupoported software.
Just to be clear about my original post... Adobe, when I called them, told me not to upgrade to Catalina as it applies to using Adobe Creative Cloud CC. He told me to stay with Mojave... for now.
My post was not referencing any other apps. Only Adobe Creative Cloud CC. It all had to do with 32 & 64bit apps.
Barry
bbrowner wrote:
Just to be clear about my original post... Adobe, when I called them, told me not to upgrade to Catalina as it applies to using Adobe Creative Cloud CC. He told me to stay with Mojave... for now.
My post was not referencing any other apps. Only Adobe Creative Cloud CC. It all had to do with 32 & 64bit apps.
Barry
Might depend on whom you speak with :)
I use Adobe CC - no issues running with Catalina. I am not saying that there are no issues, but it is not with everyone for sure.
Dngallagher wrote:
Might depend on whom you speak with :)
I use Adobe CC - no issues running with Catalina. I am not saying that there are no issues, but it is not with everyone for sure.
It all depends on what applications you run on your Mac and can you live without them. Both Xrite and Spyder 5 and below do not support Catalina. There are some areas in Bridge that Adobe says need fixing.
Updated to Catalina. Have no problems using Lightroom Classic.
Dngallagher wrote:
FWIW....
I upgraded as soon as I could from Mojave to Catalina. I subscribe to the Adobe CC plan and make use of Lightroom, Bridge & Photoshop along with ON1 Raw 2019, DxO Photolab and various plugins from Nik, Topaz, Skylum and others everyday.
Since my upgrade to Catalina, only a few of my apps stopped working, all older 32 bit apps that I already had replacements for or had not used for awhile under Mojave anyway.
Am having no issues running Catalina on my Late 2015 5k iMac.
While some may have issues due to their particular systems, hardware and software in use, it is not as much doom and gloom as some articles and people might want you to think.
Apple had provided plenty of notice to users and vendors of the coming change, it should not have been a surprise to anyone that 32 bit apps stopped with Catalina. No excuse for any software company to have been caught off guard ;)
BTW - What will come next will be a higher rev of Catalina....it will be a full year before there is a new OS....and most likely the same vendors will not be ready for it either ;)
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What will be gained or lost if you do not upgrade?
Funny, I chatted with Adobe and sent me a link so I could check all my apps to see which were 64 and which 32. I use the subscription PS/LR Classic and both showed up as 64 bit. I posted the link a few days ago.
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