Low Light Black and White
Oct 7, 2019 05:54:14 #
My film of choice these days is a film that comes from the Ukraine. It stays really flat in the scanner which is something that I like. The ASA (ISO) rating is 64. That means that most of the time when the light is at all low, I'm on a tripod. In this photo, the sun had not yet come up and I was definitely on a tripod. What interested me to this scene was the contrast between the lit area with the benches and the low light of the predawn everywhere else. Thanks for taking a look.
P.S. When I was working on it, it looked to be tilted to the left. I might have over-compensated when I used the angle tool in LR. Now it looks (to me) slightly leaning to the right. AAArgh! Guess my world is just a skewed environment. lol
Erich
P.S. When I was working on it, it looked to be tilted to the left. I might have over-compensated when I used the angle tool in LR. Now it looks (to me) slightly leaning to the right. AAArgh! Guess my world is just a skewed environment. lol
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 07:42:53 #
This is a very nice image, Erich.
--Bob
--Bob
ebrunner wrote:
My film of choice these days is a film that comes ... (show quote)
Oct 7, 2019 08:30:00 #
Nice photo, Erich: composition, subject, processing, etc. I like it a lot.
I don’t see a tilt.
I don’t see a tilt.
Oct 7, 2019 08:45:30 #
A very good B&W from film. I am surprised to see how bright the bench area is in this photo while seeing the morning light in the sky is so bright too, would not have expected the camera to be this good without any blown out areas.
I also thought the picture might be tilted but I checked it and you are spot on. I think what is messing up out thinking is the shore line and the peninsula having different angles confusing our brain.😏
What do you like about the film that differs from a digital camera? Is it because of wanted film grain?
I also thought the picture might be tilted but I checked it and you are spot on. I think what is messing up out thinking is the shore line and the peninsula having different angles confusing our brain.😏
What do you like about the film that differs from a digital camera? Is it because of wanted film grain?
Oct 7, 2019 08:57:09 #
rmalarz wrote:
This is a very nice image, Erich.
--Bob
--Bob
Thank you. I'm very glad that you enjoyed the photo. I know that you do a lot of B&W, that makes me think I'm on the right path. Much appreciated.
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 09:23:23 #
Subtle, moving image.
You are right about the perspective, the left side top a bit narrower. However, the railing goes the other way!?. I like to use the grid, and the /Transform tool in Photoshop, choosing /Skew or /Distort as needed.
You are right about the perspective, the left side top a bit narrower. However, the railing goes the other way!?. I like to use the grid, and the /Transform tool in Photoshop, choosing /Skew or /Distort as needed.
Oct 7, 2019 09:26:33 #
ebrunner wrote:
My film of choice these days is a film that comes ... (show quote)
Very well done done Eric!
And thank you for posting an image that can be refereed to as a prime example that black and white does not mean high contrast!
Oct 7, 2019 12:17:31 #
Very well done Erich. Interested on how you measured exposure on this one. Sometimes leveling tools jump a bit can be frustrating.
Oct 7, 2019 12:58:43 #
jaymatt wrote:
Nice photo, Erich: composition, subject, processing, etc. I like it a lot.
I don’t see a tilt.
I don’t see a tilt.
Thank you. Glad I got the horizon right, finally!
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 13:07:54 #
Jim-Pops wrote:
A very good B&W from film. I am surprised to s... (show quote)
I would say that the grain in film is different than "noise" in digital. But I use a low ISO film speed to minimize grain. Some people really like a grainy look; but I'm not that crazy about it. This photo does have more pronounced grain because of the low light. That tends to enhance grain.
I do feel that film has a unique look (especially some of the color films). Most important though is the process. Shooting with film (because each frame costs money) slows you down. It is more deliberate than shooting with digital. I like both media and I can't say that one is "better" than the other. They both have advantages. I suppose that the fact that I can now buy all the cameras that I lusted after in the seventies is an appeal of film also.
For resolution it is hard to beat medium format film. The details in those negatives are amazing. Hopefully this year I will also be able to make the move to 4x5 view cameras. Since I don't have a darkroom, I will have to buy a different (and much more expensive) scanner if I want to play that game.....I do!
Oct 7, 2019 13:10:52 #
artBob wrote:
Subtle, moving image.
You are right about the perspective, the left side top a bit narrower. However, the railing goes the other way!?. I like to use the grid, and the /Transform tool in Photoshop, choosing /Skew or /Distort as needed.
You are right about the perspective, the left side top a bit narrower. However, the railing goes the other way!?. I like to use the grid, and the /Transform tool in Photoshop, choosing /Skew or /Distort as needed.
Good tips, Bob. I had not thought about using those tools for straightening; but it makes sense. Thanks for taking a look.
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 13:12:28 #
Rich1939 wrote:
Very well done done Eric!
And thank you for posting an image that can be refereed to as a prime example that black and white does not mean high contrast!
And thank you for posting an image that can be refereed to as a prime example that black and white does not mean high contrast!
I had not thought of it that way; but you are right about the contrast. I suppose what attracted me to the scene was the bright area around the benches. Glad you enjoyed the photo. ]
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 13:15:53 #
dansmith wrote:
Very well done Erich. Interested on how you measured exposure on this one. Sometimes leveling tools jump a bit can be frustrating.
I have a hand held spot meter. I metered several areas in the scene, entered them in the meter's memory and then took the average. That allowed me to determine what the difference was in terms of EV between lightest area and darkest area. This allows you to be sure that nothing is blown out.
Erich
Oct 7, 2019 20:02:53 #
Oct 8, 2019 05:36:43 #
UTMike wrote:
A wonderful photograph, Erich! Your expertise is inspirational.
Thank you for that wonderful compliment. One of the things I've always liked about FYC is that the posts are usually very thoughtful. The members set the bar high and it is fun to try to rise to the occasion.
Erich
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