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Sony rx10M4 Shutter Activations
Sep 25, 2019 06:17:10   #
alphonso49uk
 
Just out of interest I decided to contact Sony UK to find out how many mechanical shutter activations the rx10M4 was expected to last for since you have the option to use either the mechanical shutter or the electronic shutter to take photos with.The same info is freely available for dslr's .
After recieving an initial response which didnt answer the question at all....simply refering me to the section in the manual concerning the 2 different shutter options,I recieved the following reply.


Thank you for your recent e-mail.

We sincerely apologise for any unintended inconvenience caused to yourself.

With reference to your enquiry regarding your Sony DSC-RX10M4, we are sorry to inform you that this information can not be disclosed.

Should you have any further questions, please feel free to reply to this email.

Thank you for your enquiry.
Since I seem to have stumbled upon something bound by the official secrets act I wonder if any Hoggers could shed any light on it?

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Sep 25, 2019 13:27:22   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
Just out of interest I decided to contact Sony UK to find out how many mechanical shutter activations the rx10M4 was expected to last for since you have the option to use either the mechanical shutter or the electronic shutter to take photos with.The same info is freely available for dslr's .
After recieving an initial response which didnt answer the question at all....simply refering me to the section in the manual concerning the 2 different shutter options,I recieved the following reply.


Thank you for your recent e-mail.

We sincerely apologise for any unintended inconvenience caused to yourself.

With reference to your enquiry regarding your Sony DSC-RX10M4, we are sorry to inform you that this information can not be disclosed.

Should you have any further questions, please feel free to reply to this email.

Thank you for your enquiry.
Since I seem to have stumbled upon something bound by the official secrets act I wonder if any Hoggers could shed any light on it?
Just out of interest I decided to contact Sony UK ... (show quote)


It would be hard to determine shutter actuations on a camera that has a combo of electronic and mechanical (leaf-type) shutters. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Sep 26, 2019 13:57:50   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Found this reply on DPReview:

"sybersitizen wrote:

What we know is that the mechanical shutter is a leaf type rather than a focal plane type, so it's subjected to less overall stress and is likely to hold up over a large number of activations.

Leaf shutters degrade much slower than focal plane versions. They can fail, but not always due to traditional wear problems associated with focal plane shutters. And unlike focal plane shutters, they aren't designed to be replaced.

With the RX10 IV, it would be difficult to track mechanical shutter count. Shutter speeds faster than 1/1000 might use e-shutter. Fast burst rates always use e-shutter. Depending on usage patterns, it could take some effort to get an accurate count.

The whole shutter life thing is overblown. I know people with cameras pushing 2x the expected shutter life expectancy. But I've also talked to professionals using cameras in extremely dusty environments that had shutter failures at less than 50% of their rating."

Normal focal plane shutters have a life of 100,000 to 400,000 activations. I would suspect the shutter in a RX10 IV is at least as good AND remember the camera is sealed, i.e.: no dust/dirt getting into the shutter.

bwa

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Sep 26, 2019 14:41:57   #
markwilliam1
 
bwana wrote:
Found this reply on DPReview:

"sybersitizen wrote:

What we know is that the mechanical shutter is a leaf type rather than a focal plane type, so it's subjected to less overall stress and is likely to hold up over a large number of activations.

Leaf shutters degrade much slower than focal plane versions. They can fail, but not always due to traditional wear problems associated with focal plane shutters. And unlike focal plane shutters, they aren't designed to be replaced.

With the RX10 IV, it would be difficult to track mechanical shutter count. Shutter speeds faster than 1/1000 might use e-shutter. Fast burst rates always use e-shutter. Depending on usage patterns, it could take some effort to get an accurate count.

The whole shutter life thing is overblown. I know people with cameras pushing 2x the expected shutter life expectancy. But I've also talked to professionals using cameras in extremely dusty environments that had shutter failures at less than 50% of their rating."

Normal focal plane shutters have a life of 100,000 to 400,000 activations. I would suspect the shutter in a RX10 IV is at least as good AND remember the camera is sealed, i.e.: no dust/dirt getting into the shutter.

bwa
Found this reply on DPReview: br br "sybersi... (show quote)


As an owner of this Fabulous camera I never use the mechanical shutter! The e-shutter is completely silent at 24FPS. No one knows you even took a picture if in a crowd. I find it interesting the old DSLR folks don’t get annoyed with the sound of a flapping mirror firing off only a few FPS. Think they like the sound? Seems to be a status symbol of the past.

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Sep 26, 2019 15:45:13   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
markwilliam1 wrote:
As an owner of this Fabulous camera I never use the mechanical shutter! The e-shutter is completely silent at 24FPS. No one knows you even took a picture if in a crowd. I find it interesting the old DSLR folks don’t get annoyed with the sound of a flapping mirror firing off only a few FPS. Think they like the sound? Seems to be a status symbol of the past.



That flapping mirror is a definite status symbol of the past, sorta like the pop of a flash bulb going off a few decades ago, i.e.: the flash on my Brownie 620 camera.

bwa

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Sep 26, 2019 16:20:00   #
alphonso49uk
 
Thanks very much for the dpreview info.
Makes me feel better
Cheers

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