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Aug 28, 2012 15:02:21   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
This is not going so well , I cant seem to get focused on the thing , or the camera needs to go back again . This will be time number 2 and I am really getting a bit discouraged . I know it is not the lens at all, as there are others on here that are getting sharp shots with the same glass . All shots were at 500 mm

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Aug 28, 2012 15:06:47   #
angler Loc: StHelens England
 
Just looked at the downloads and they look pretty good to me mate.

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Aug 28, 2012 15:07:03   #
emrob62 Loc: NEPA
 
"tis a difficult thing to capture (I have no advice on the subject)keep plugging away. Maybe if you ask nice they'll fly a little slower or glide for you.

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Aug 28, 2012 15:52:45   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
angler wrote:
Just looked at the downloads and they look pretty good to me mate.

Thanks , but the bird should be a lot sharper than he is .

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Aug 28, 2012 15:54:51   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
emrob62 wrote:
"tis a difficult thing to capture (I have no advice on the subject)keep plugging away. Maybe if you ask nice they'll fly a little slower or glide for you.

Thats it ! Me having inventing my own language ,must have caused him to make that second lap to laugh at me .
:thumbup:

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Aug 28, 2012 16:05:04   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.

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Aug 28, 2012 16:07:54   #
tk Loc: Iowa
 
Go to Swamp Gator or Gregoryd45 and download one of their pictures for the info.

I'm just getting better and my settings were 1/4000 ISO 640. You also need practice. You need to be able to follow the bird as smoothly as possible. Some use practice and a tripod with a long lens.

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Aug 28, 2012 16:11:38   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.


He says he is having some problems getting sharp focus on BIF and you suggest he use manual focus?!?

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that advice.

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Aug 28, 2012 16:15:35   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
Dback4430 wrote:
This is not going so well , I cant seem to get focused on the thing , or the camera needs to go back again . This will be time number 2 and I am really getting a bit discouraged . I know it is not the lens at all, as there are others on here that are getting sharp shots with the same glass . All shots were at 500 mm


Yeah it does look like you are having some problems locking focus. I'm not sure if you are back focusing a bit or what.
But some of these especially the last couple look like movement (by you) might be an issue. Even though you are using a fast enough shutter speed to stop action, if you are moving or shaking the camera and lens up and down even a little while panning that could result in soft focus.

What lens are you using?

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Aug 28, 2012 16:19:03   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
Dback4430 wrote:
This is not going so well , I cant seem to get focused on the thing , or the camera needs to go back again . This will be time number 2 and I am really getting a bit discouraged . I know it is not the lens at all, as there are others on here that are getting sharp shots with the same glass . All shots were at 500 mm


Yeah it does look like you are having some problems locking focus. I'm not sure if you are back focusing a bit or what.
But some of these especially the last couple look like movement (by you) might be an issue. Even though you are using a fast enough shutter speed to stop action, if you are moving or shaking the camera and lens up and down even a little while panning that could result in soft focus.

What lens are you using?
quote=Dback4430 This is not going so well , I ca... (show quote)

150-500 sigma . I had the IS off . I will have to just practice some more with the thing and hope for improvement . Just dont want to practice wrong , Thanks for looking

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Aug 28, 2012 16:19:57   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.


He says he is having some problems getting sharp focus on BIF and you suggest he use manual focus?!?

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that advice.


For BIF in general I would use Auto. In this case, two things are clear. First, the herons are on a predictable glide path and the photographer is presumably in a fixed location. That means that the bird is at a known distance and manual will avoid a number of issues. Second, his AF is focusing on the grasses in the background (at least on the first four). Whatever AF points are being used or averaged, the background is outweighing the primary subject.

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Aug 28, 2012 16:27:09   #
Dback4430 Loc: Lockport Il
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Swamp Gator wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.


He says he is having some problems getting sharp focus on BIF and you suggest he use manual focus?!?

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that advice.


For BIF in general I would use Auto. In this case, two things are clear. First, the herons are on a predictable glide path and the photographer is presumably in a fixed location. That means that the bird is at a known distance and manual will avoid a number of issues. Second, his AF is focusing on the grasses in the background (at least on the first four). Whatever AF points are being used or averaged, the background is outweighing the primary subject.
quote=Swamp Gator quote=PrairieSeasons Autofocus... (show quote)

The autofocus seems to be the problem . Well aMaybe part of it . It was on AI servo , which is suppose to track with the subject . Either its not happening or I am screwing up big time on many fronts

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Aug 28, 2012 16:33:33   #
Swamp Gator Loc: Coastal South Carolina
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Swamp Gator wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.


He says he is having some problems getting sharp focus on BIF and you suggest he use manual focus?!?

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that advice.


For BIF in general I would use Auto. In this case, two things are clear. First, the herons are on a predictable glide path and the photographer is presumably in a fixed location. That means that the bird is at a known distance and manual will avoid a number of issues. Second, his AF is focusing on the grasses in the background (at least on the first four). Whatever AF points are being used or averaged, the background is outweighing the primary subject.
quote=Swamp Gator quote=PrairieSeasons Autofocus... (show quote)


A better idea might be to set up the camera and lens properly for AF so that it can lock on to a subject such as a flying bird even against a busy background.
It can be done.

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Aug 28, 2012 17:10:53   #
ftpecktim Loc: MONTANA
 
Swamp Gator wrote:
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Autofocus or manual? These shots should be manual.


He says he is having some problems getting sharp focus on BIF and you suggest he use manual focus?!?

I'm gonna strongly disagree with that advice.


:thumbup:

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Aug 28, 2012 17:19:25   #
tk Loc: Iowa
 
If you haven't, check out Swamp Gator's BIF's. His shots are amazing and his help has improved my shots.

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