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Aug 6, 2019 09:34:07   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I find it interesting that I hear very little, from the media or liberal poliyicians, about the shooting in Dayton. Perhaps iy's because this shooting by a followere of Liberal presidential candidates does not fit the progressive model of Trump's racism. Do I smell hypocrocy? BTW Obama endured more mass shootgs, and the deaths they caused than Trump. Was Obama a racist? I smell hypocrocy, no doubt at all. %hose mass shootings under Obama, were not, of cource, his fault. But never the less Obama was even more devicive than trump.

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Aug 6, 2019 09:43:47   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
boberic wrote:
I find it interesting that I hear very little, from the media or liberal poliyicians, about the shooting in Dayton. Perhaps iy's because this shooting by a followere of Liberal presidential candidates does not fit the progressive model of Trump's racism. Do I smell hypocrocy? BTW Obama endured more mass shootgs, and the deaths they caused than Trump. Was Obama a racist? I smell hypocrocy, no doubt at all. %hose mass shootings under Obama, were not, of cource, his fault. But never the less Obama was even more devicive than trump.
I find it interesting that I hear very little, fro... (show quote)


The Dayton shooting is all over the news.
Try to be open-minded. In other words, don’t make crap up that makes you feel relevant.

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Aug 6, 2019 10:04:16   #
PeterDragon Loc: Harlan, KY - Kona, HI - Phoenix, AZ
 

My daughter and brother lives in Dayton and keeping the politico away from this is the right thing to do. By the way, this scares the sh*t out of me.
Semper Fi,
Jim

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Aug 6, 2019 12:37:53   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
The Dayton shooting is all over the news.
Try to be open-minded. In other words, don’t make crap up that makes you feel relevant.


I don't think that it is actually the Dayton coverage that bothers him so much as the ridiculous accusations being made by the media and others trying to link the president to the El Paso shooting. Your side does seem to get the juices flowing even in the moments that we should be the most supportive of each other.

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Aug 6, 2019 14:53:31   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I don't think that it is actually the Dayton coverage that bothers him so much as the ridiculous accusations being made by the media and others trying to link the president to the El Paso shooting. Your side does seem to get the juices flowing even in the moments that we should be the most supportive of each other.


“I find it interesting that I hear very little, from the media or liberal politicians, about the shooting in Dayton.” That is what he wrote, and I think that is what he meant. And, in short, it is unfounded, a lie to to promote his beliefs about what he thinks is a biased media. The media has reported non-stop about both Dayton and El Paso. There is no apparent selective coverage of the stories.
Good God, if we can’t be honest, we should not post.

The juices are flowing because innocent people are being killed in the streets of the great country.
America is not Great.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:13:07   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
“I find it interesting that I hear very little, from the media or liberal politicians, about the shooting in Dayton.” That is what he wrote, and I think that is what he meant. And, in short, it is unfounded, a lie to to promote his beliefs about what he thinks is a biased media. The media has reported non-stop about both Dayton and El Paso. There is no apparent selective coverage of the stories.
Good God, if we can’t be honest, we should not post.

The juices are flowing because innocent people are being killed in the streets of the great country.
America is not Great.
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The difference is that in both of the shooters backgrounds there were clear political leanings although the El Paso shooter was not only a White Nationalist but he was also an environmentalist very upset about our environmental policies not being strong enough, but clearly he was very opposed to immigration, both legal and illegal, so much so that his motivation was to strike fear into immigrants in this country hoping that it would stop their flow into the US. The Dayton shooter was clearly left of center, he supported socialism and Senator Warren and demanded that social change happen now, that he was unwilling to wait for the political process.

The media and democrat politicians have done everything within their power to blame Trump for the shooting in El Paso which is unfair, Trump had nothing to do with that shooting, however they are failing to fully report on the political leanings and writings of the Dayton shooter which would be fine if they did not try and make issue of the El Paso shooter's political writings....

Trump nor Warren are to blame in either of these instances, the shooters are and those who may have known that something like this could happen and did nothing to stop it.

Here in Florida I suspect that we will see an expansion of the Baker Act that will intervene in gun sales when the authorities and family have expressed concern about a purchaser's mental well being. The Parkland shooter should have never been able to purchase his guns.

At any rate, I think that his anger is at the press's attempt to fully associate the El Paso shooter with Trump while remaining silent on the Dayton shooter's angry political expression supporting progressivism.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:16:51   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The difference is that in both of the shooters backgrounds there were clear political leanings although the El Paso shooter was not only a White Nationalist but he was also an environmentalist very upset about our environmental policies not being strong enough, but clearly he was very opposed to immigration, both legal and illegal, so much so that his motivation was to strike fear into immigrants in this country hoping that it would stop their flow into the US. The Dayton shooter was clearly left of center, he supported socialism and Senator Warren and demanded that social change happen now, that he was unwilling to wait for the political process.

The media and democrat politicians have done everything within their power to blame Trump for the shooting in El Paso which is unfair, Trump had nothing to do with that shooting, however they are failing to fully report on the political leanings and writings of the Dayton shooter which would be fine if they did not try and make issue of the El Paso shooter's political writings....

Trump nor Warren are to blame in either of these instances, the shooters are and those who may have known that something like this could happen and did nothing to stop it.

Here in Florida I suspect that we will see an expansion of the Baker Act that will intervene in gun sales when the authorities and family have expressed concern about a purchasers mental well being. The Parkland shooter should have never been able to purchase his guns.

At any rate, I think that his anger is at the press's attempt to fully associate the El Paso shooter with Trump while remaining silent on the Dayton shooter's angry political expression supporting progressivism.
The difference is that in both of the shooters bac... (show quote)


There are bad people on both sides.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:17:21   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
There are bad people on both sides.


Yes Kraken, there are.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:24:59   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yes Kraken, there are.


Don't forget about the good people on both sides.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:26:26   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
letmedance wrote:
Don't forget about the good people on both sides.


That too.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:39:53   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
letmedance wrote:
Don't forget about the good people on both sides.


Yes, trump mentioned that too.

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Aug 6, 2019 15:41:19   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
All I hear on the main stream media is how Trump is responsible for the racism that lead to the El Paso shooting, I hear very little aqbout the Dayton shooting from that media. I am not stretching the truth I am merely "reporting what I am hearing. Maybe it's different in other places. But tyhe Ohio shooting gets far less attention because Trump can not be blamed. No republicans slam democrats for the Ohio shooting but the News was full of Democrat candidates using the Texas shooting to blame Trump.

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Aug 6, 2019 17:50:42   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Kraken wrote:
Yes, trump mentioned that too.


He sure did and the press twisted it into a pretzel.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:44:22   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
letmedance wrote:
He sure did and the press twisted it into a pretzel.


As deserved.

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Aug 6, 2019 18:46:04   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Kraken wrote:
As deserved.


Now we part on opinion.

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