rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

The only reason I carry in iPhone is for one application which nails exposure/processing. I don't use it for photography. But then, I don't make calls with by cameras.
--Bob

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I bought a smart phone to have a phone.
(It came with a camera.)
I have just over a dozen apps on it now, four for photography.

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

I've heard this before and it's really an asinine comment. It"s a question of... who wants to learn the finer points of photography, is that person going to get that knowledge from using a smart phone? There's always going to be people who would much rather use a dedicated camera for serious photography than a smart phone, their for the selfie crowd or maybe we should all get rid of our dedicated cameras and start using smart phones.

lemontart Loc: uk

For professional or semi pros yes dslr imho is an essential piece of equipment, for a n other it is not. Mirrorless, compact camera or smart phone the best camera is always the one you have with you.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

You lost me there.
What i meant is that the D7500 is not a worthy replacement for the 7200.
That the folding screen of the D7500 is even less articulated than the one in the D5300.

The supposed replacement was not better.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Thought you were referring to the model number of the "better" camera being lower in sequence.

Najataagihe

As currently configured?

Not long.


After reconfiguring and consolidation?

From now on.


For an indication of how the camera manufacturing business is going to evolve, look at the musical instrument industry over the last 50 years.

Student instrument lines drop like flies. (Nikon drops non-professional lines.)

Instrument manufacturers diversify. (Sony makes imaging chips for other manufacturers as well as cameras.)

Instrument makers consolidate - Selmer is bought by UMI who buys King and is then bought by Steinway who buys Conn and continues to use the Conn, King and Bach brands, etc. (Minolta is bought by Konica which is bought by Sony... , etc.)

Hand-built, custom and/or high precision professional niche instruments are made in smaller quantities - Shires, Edwards, etc. (Leica, Fujifilm X100F, etc.)

Mass-produced professional instruments are reduced to fewer models with less duplication - no more Bach jazz horns, no more King orchestral horns, etc. (Who absorbs who? Which brand is going to be the sports camera, the portrait camera, the nature camera, the landscape camera, etc.?)


I think you will see a parallel path for cameras and musical instruments, just on different timelines.


We will have fewer manufacturers as the strong acquire the weak.

The different brands will be assigned different roles, so there is no duplication of function among the different brand labels owned by the conglomerate.

The market is going to be unsure for a while, but it will settle out to, once again, find that balance of supply and demand.


Worry not, my new-found friends.

Art will always find a way.


8)

Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.

I wouldn't say it's a step back, though they are very close as for as performance. I would give the edge to the D7500 because of it's faster burst, 8fps. vs. 6fps. A good way to judge a camera from one another is the price not the model no. there's a reason the cost of the D7500 is about $200.00 more than the D7200.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

The D7200 at crop setting can burst at 7fps so the gap isn't that big at all. The big deal breaker is the loss of the 2nd card. This makes the D7500 unfit/less viable option for paid production.

Silverman Loc: Michigan

In my personal opinion on this debated, and sometimes controversial subject, "Smartphone vs. DSLR", is a case of convenience vs. creativity. The Smartphone being a quick convenient way to capture a "Special Moment in Time." and share it QUICKLY with other friends & Family on a social media website. Where as the DSLR is a Creative tool, allowing the " Photographer" to decide exactly what they want their image(s) to say to those that take the time to view their creativity.
I personally have both a Smartphone camera and a Nikon DSLR camera with a small variety of Lens for a variety of creative photographic circumstances.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Really don't think there is any controversy or subject matter about this comparison that warrants serious debate.

I would like the think that most of the serious folks on this forum know, full well, the differences between smartphones and dedicated cameras. They know the attributes and possible shortcoming of DSLR and mirrorless cameras and the know the scope of both film and digital photography. I speculate that even the average non-enthusiast consumer knows that a smartphone is not a complex advanced or professional level camera.

In many cases the "Vs". (versus) word should be relegated to court documents and sports events and replaced with "and" or "or".

I don't believe that anyone who is going to pursue photography as a serious hobby, avocation, art or profession is gonna believe that a cell phone is his or her entry-level primary camera. I do, however, believe that enjoying the fun and novelty of a good cell phone, iPhone or smartphone device may turn on many folks to photography and encourage them to advance to more sophisticated gear- that's a good thing!

Perhaps some of the folks that exhibit so much ire, snobbery, resentfulness and distaste for the cellphone camera are upset that many otherwise non-photographers are actually producing decent snapshots, surprisingly good artistic images with very little complex knowledge or sophisticated gear.

I have been a professional photographer for longer than I care to think about and I have bought and sold enough gear to fill several "big brown trucks" and still have and use have too much of it- seems I never ran out of GAS! I still have fun with my cell phone camera when I am "off duty" and there ain't nothin' wrong with dat!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

The second definition of versus is for comparison or in contrast with. Totally acceptable.

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

Thank you, Sir! You are CORRECT! I will add this to my etymology file. I'm not kidding, I love to get into word usage, semantics and the like.

"Comparison"- I like that!

I imagine most folks think of the more combative or adversarial relationship interpretation- political campaigns, professional wrestling matches, Chess competitions, etc.

In sports and legal cases there are winners and losers. With photography gear you can have your cake and eat it too and have a DSLR AND a Smartphone. You can also have an 8x10 view camera, a minox, a Krasnogorsk (a Russian-made 16mmm motion picture camera) or whatever else floats your boat and won't sink you bank account- all at the same time!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

I must be one of the few that use vs. as comparison a LOT!