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Jul 11, 2019 21:37:00   #
justhercamera Loc: NW Michigan
 
I was about to shut the house up for the night, when I saw these clouds. I grabbed the camera and went out. I wish I had underexposed that first shot a bit more, and kept more highlights. Do you think I lost too much on that one?


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Jul 11, 2019 21:40:00   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
Su, you definitely have more detail in the white clouds in the other shots. I don't know if you can tone it down or not. It is still a very pretty shot as are all of these.

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Jul 11, 2019 21:57:27   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
Check your histogram...if the highlights are blown out there they’re gone.

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Jul 11, 2019 21:58:48   #
justhercamera Loc: NW Michigan
 
SnappyHappy wrote:
Check your histogram...if the highlights are blown out there they’re gone.


They were blown out, but there was much about the photo I liked, was hoping that it didn't totally ruin the photo.

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Jul 11, 2019 22:16:08   #
SnappyHappy Loc: Chapin, SC “The Capitol of Lake Murray”
 
justhercamera wrote:
They were blown out, but there was much about the photo I liked, was hoping that it didn't totally ruin the photo.


You’ve captured much to like. Given the dynamic range you were presented with and it was a grab your camera before its gone kinda thing, I think it looks very good. To tell you the truth I can’t remember ever capturing a perfect file myself...either I’ve had to trade off something or wish later I had tweeted it this way or that. God presents light shows all the time that are better than we are. Nice set

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Jul 11, 2019 22:42:43   #
justhercamera Loc: NW Michigan
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
Su, you definitely have more detail in the white clouds in the other shots. I don't know if you can tone it down or not. It is still a very pretty shot as are all of these.


Thank you Carol. I am still seeing if I can recover more and not get too "off" with it. So far, I am not satisfied.

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Jul 11, 2019 22:45:01   #
justhercamera Loc: NW Michigan
 
SnappyHappy wrote:
You’ve captured much to like. Given the dynamic range you were presented with and it was a grab your camera before its gone kinda thing, I think it looks very good. To tell you the truth I can’t remember ever capturing a perfect file myself...either I’ve had to trade off something or wish later I had tweeted it this way or that. God presents light shows all the time that are better than we are. Nice set


Thank you. I remember stopping it down a bit, and the D850 can recover shadows well, so another stop or so would be OK.. good ol' hindsight. You're quite right about those light shows!

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Jul 12, 2019 00:37:02   #
bleirer
 
Pull the texture and detail from another area of the clouds in another picture. A little complicated but not terrible. In photoshop for example, the healing brush tool can be used across files. So you can alt click in the good clouds in one file then switch to the file with the blown out area and brush in that area to copy the good clouds into the blown out area. To refine things you could make a selection from the blown out clouds to limit the effect to the cloud only, maybe apply some feathering so it isn't too sharp of an effect, or just adjust the brush hardness so it feathers out as you brush it in.

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Jul 12, 2019 02:45:18   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
Sue,
I looked at the third photo and thought that perhaps it could be improved by converting it to RAW from the jpeg you presented, and then tweak it a bit in RAW before converting back to jpeg. Perhaps you may like it, but there is now more detail and not blown out it seems.


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Jul 12, 2019 06:00:27   #
justhercamera Loc: NW Michigan
 
bleirer wrote:
Pull the texture and detail from another area of the clouds in another picture. A little complicated but not terrible. In photoshop for example, the healing brush tool can be used across files. So you can alt click in the good clouds in one file then switch to the file with the blown out area and brush in that area to copy the good clouds into the blown out area. To refine things you could make a selection from the blown out clouds to limit the effect to the cloud only, maybe apply some feathering so it isn't too sharp of an effect, or just adjust the brush hardness so it feathers out as you brush it in.
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I had not thought of that. Thank you.

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Jul 12, 2019 07:24:59   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
justhercamera wrote:
I was about to shut the house up for the night, when I saw these clouds. I grabbed the camera and went out. I wish I had underexposed that first shot a bit more, and kept more highlights. Do you think I lost too much on that one?


Yep, they are gone. Some of the PP software out there may help with this (Aurora HDR comes to mind). Looking at the metadata info it looks like you used Matrix metering at -1/3. "Good ol' hindsight" says maybe next time, spot meter white clouds at -1 1/2 as a second, bracketed shot. Also, the D850 has an HDR setting that works fairly well. Another way to bracket.

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Jul 12, 2019 07:50:59   #
bleirer
 
Doc Barry wrote:
Sue,
I looked at the third photo and thought that perhaps it could be improved by converting it to RAW from the jpeg you presented, and then tweak it a bit in RAW before converting back to jpeg. Perhaps you may like it, but there is now more detail and not blown out it seems.


Would you mind elaborating on that? I ask because I thought was impossible to go back to raw. Jpeg being 8 bit, the data is lost, No?

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Jul 12, 2019 08:24:22   #
rborud Loc: Minnesota
 
justhercamera wrote:
I was about to shut the house up for the night, when I saw these clouds. I grabbed the camera and went out. I wish I had underexposed that first shot a bit more, and kept more highlights. Do you think I lost too much on that one?


Justher does this help? RBorud


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Jul 12, 2019 09:33:05   #
Doc Barry Loc: Huntsville, Alabama USA
 
bleirer wrote:
Would you mind elaborating on that? I ask because I thought was impossible to go back to raw. Jpeg being 8 bit, the data is lost, No?


I used Topaz JPEG to RAW AI program. If the photo is way blown out, then this can't help. The 3rd photo looked like it was just a little blown so the AI program had a chance I thought. You can download a trial copy at https://topazlabs.com/jpeg-to-raw-ai/ and obtain a nice explanation how it works. I have used it for a while and have found it does a good job. Although I normally just shoot RAW, I have some family and friends who just shoot jpeg and ask for help at times.

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Jul 12, 2019 12:13:54   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
When shooting digital it is very important to expose for an important highlight. It is well known that once a highlight is clipped it is very difficult if not impossible to correct it.

I do not know what type of exposure modality you used but in a case like this spot metering is exactly what the doctor ordered. In my case I would have metered from the bright cloud and open just one stop IF shooting RAW data. The rest is done with editing.
If in any doubts just look at the histogram.

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