IBIS vs VR
Jul 6, 2019 11:03:34 #
etaoin
Loc: Wichita, KS
Ran across a new-to-me acronym -- IBIS. Looked it up and it said In Body Image Stabilization. OK, I've recently heard of that and it got me to thinking. Does IBIS complement or conflict with lenses with Vibration Reduction?
Jul 6, 2019 11:11:13 #
Usually a manufacturer uses only one type of VR.
Some have it in the lens, some have it in the body.
I know of no camera that uses both at the same time.
In lens and in body are both types of Vibration Reduction.
Some have it in the lens, some have it in the body.
I know of no camera that uses both at the same time.
In lens and in body are both types of Vibration Reduction.
Jul 6, 2019 11:13:23 #
etaoin
Loc: Wichita, KS
So if you have a body with IBIS, and you have a lens with VR, I assume, then, you should turn off VR on the lens?
Jul 6, 2019 11:16:21 #
etaoin wrote:
So if you have a body with IBIS, and you have a lens with VR, I assume, then, you should turn off VR on the lens?
No. On a Z, the VR switch on the lens turns the IBIS in the camera on and off. With a VR lens on, the stabilization goes from three axis to 5. Only turn it off if on a tripod.
Jul 6, 2019 11:16:32 #
Olympus cameras such as the M1 MKii use IBIS in the body and paired with a lens such as the 12-100 zoom which has ILIS you can get up to a reported 6.5 stops with the combination. BTW, that 12-100 is a killer and could negate carrying around much of anything else for 90 % of your needs.
Jul 6, 2019 11:18:13 #
My question would be does the lens that goes on the body with vibration reduction in the body have vibration reduction in the lens???
My lens has VR in it, the body does not.
My lens will not fit on another camera brand with VR in the body.
My lens has VR in it, the body does not.
My lens will not fit on another camera brand with VR in the body.
Jul 6, 2019 11:21:16 #
MrBob wrote:
Olympus cameras such as the M1 MKii use IBIS in the body and paired with a lens such as the 12-100 zoom which has ILIS you can get up to a reported 6.5 stops with the combination. BTW, that 12-100 is a killer and could negate carrying around much of anything else for 90 % of your needs.
Wouldn't the two systems fight each other or are they coupled?
Jul 6, 2019 11:29:36 #
Longshadow wrote:
My question would be does the lens that goes on the body with vibration reduction in the body have vibration reduction in the lens???
My lens has VR in it, the body does not.
My lens will not fit on another camera brand with VR in the body.
My lens has VR in it, the body does not.
My lens will not fit on another camera brand with VR in the body.
Don't quote me but I believe that only Olympus offers combined usage of IBIS and ILIS. Just think what 6 stops really means.... the diff. between say 1/1000 of a second and 1/15 of a second.
Jul 6, 2019 11:29:42 #
John Howard wrote:
No. On a Z, the VR switch on the lens turns the IBIS in the camera on and off. With a VR lens on, the stabilization goes from three axis to 5. Only turn it off if on a tripod.
Are the two additional axis combinations of pitch, roll, and/or yaw?
Wouldn't a three axis system accommodate changes in multiple axis?
Jul 6, 2019 11:32:07 #
MrBob wrote:
Don't quote me but I believe that only Olympus offers combined usage of IBIS and ILIS. Just think what 6 stops really means.... the diff. between say 1/1000 of a second and 1/15 of a second.
The two systems must be coupled as I would think that one would try to correct for the adjustment that the other made.
Jul 6, 2019 11:33:14 #
Longshadow wrote:
Wouldn't the two systems fight each other or are they coupled?
On the example I mentioned they are coupled to give you that reported 6.5 stops. I only have the Mark I and If I ever get the muchachos to get the 12-100 I understand there is firmware that will allow both to work together on that model.
Jul 6, 2019 11:35:06 #
gtilford
Loc: Woodstock, Ontario, Canada
MrBob wrote:
Don't quote me but I believe that only Olympus offers combined usage of IBIS and ILIS. Just think what 6 stops really means.... the diff. between say 1/1000 of a second and 1/15 of a second.
Panasonic also has IBIS and VR in the lenses that work together, much the same as Olympus and is equal to Olympus
Jul 6, 2019 11:39:52 #
The process for utilizing dual VR has to be real interesting!
Thanks. (I always thought it was one or the other since I don't follow every camera.)
Thanks. (I always thought it was one or the other since I don't follow every camera.)
Jul 6, 2019 11:46:08 #
Longshadow wrote:
Wouldn't the two systems fight each other or are they coupled?
Apparently you, the font of wisdom, have never heard of a large electronics company called Panasonic. Panasonic sells cameras that offer IBIS and work together with VR lenses. Suggest you get back in touch with the market.
Jul 6, 2019 12:02:49 #
rjaywallace wrote:
Apparently you, the font of wisdom, have never heard of a large electronics company called Panasonic. Panasonic sells cameras that offer IBIS and work together with VR lenses. Suggest you get back in touch with the market.
Why?
I don't need to.
If I have a specific need for information I can always check with the astute people here.
I just learned something that was interesting, that I will probably not use again.
No way I'm going to keep tabs on all manufacturer's models and their differences and capabilities.
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