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Jun 2, 2019 08:14:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
About a year ago, I had a problem with my Garmin DriveAssist 50 GPS. I have it set to ask me if I want to avoid toll roads. Unfortunately, when it computes the toll-free route, it included toll bridges. That can turn a half hour drive into a three hour journey. That problem went away - possibly after a map update - but now it's back, after a recent map update.

Every Saturday, I drive to a couple of towns for a little over a hundred miles of driving. I use the GPS just because it's there, and it records video of the trip. Yesterday, it went back to its old habit of turning a short trip into a long one. It wasn't until I was almost in the town that it caught up. This glitch would make the GPS virtually useless if I didn't know where I was going.

I emailed Garmin about this a few months ago, and I'll email them again. You'd think it would be simple enough to isolate toll bridges from toll roads. The Setup Menu actually asks about toll roads.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:24:47   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
how are you going to avoid a toll bridge? Take a ferry??? I find that the only reliable unit I have is the old Garmin in which I TYPE the destination. My Apple and Ford navigation systems must not be familiar with the English language. I'll say (very distinctively) 200 Main st Asheville and it will give me directions to 430 Broad Ave Banner Elk. NOT EVEN CLOSE!! A lot of cursing occurs in my car. LOL

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Jun 2, 2019 08:32:38   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Jerry I had used Tom Tom for years. Owning boats where Garmin
is strong never liked their gear. These companies have been replaced by smart phones GPS.
Haven't used my Tom Tom in years. By the way they to me where always the best.
The GPS makers are now faced with extinction in the land mapping business.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:34:53   #
fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH
 
My wife and I used GPS-based "Waze" on our road trip to the Blue Ridge Mountains, last April, but only as a backup to hard copy maps I printed from Google Maps and even a Rand McNally U.S. road atlas. GPS programs are great when they work properly but I still like to know ahead of time the roads I'll be seeing and I'll be needing to take. These programs are rigid in their thinking, too. For example, Waze told us to get off the highway and go through about 20 miles of traffic when it would have been much quicker to drive about 2 miles past our destination to the next exit and double back two miles. Apparently it lacks the logic flexibility to let you go beyond your destination even though it would be shorter, time-wise. As you noted, though, it could have been "user error" in setting it up.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:37:59   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
Yes Jerry I was about the endorse "Waze" which many we know use.
https://www.ridester.com/waze-vs-google-maps/

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Jun 2, 2019 08:39:53   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
jerryc41 wrote:
About a year ago, I had a problem with my Garmin DriveAssist 50 GPS. I have it set to ask me if I want to avoid toll roads. Unfortunately, when it computes the toll-free route, it included toll bridges. That can turn a half hour drive into a three hour journey. That problem went away - possibly after a map update - but now it's back, after a recent map update.

Every Saturday, I drive to a couple of towns for a little over a hundred miles of driving. I use the GPS just because it's there, and it records video of the trip. Yesterday, it went back to its old habit of turning a short trip into a long one. It wasn't until I was almost in the town that it caught up. This glitch would make the GPS virtually useless if I didn't know where I was going.

I emailed Garmin about this a few months ago, and I'll email them again. You'd think it would be simple enough to isolate toll bridges from toll roads. The Setup Menu actually asks about toll roads.
About a year ago, I had a problem with my Garmin D... (show quote)


Just curious Jerry, did you have your maps with you?

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Jun 2, 2019 08:40:21   #
Ollieboy
 
jerryc41 wrote:
About a year ago, I had a problem with my Garmin DriveAssist 50 GPS. I have it set to ask me if I want to avoid toll roads. Unfortunately, when it computes the toll-free route, it included toll bridges. That can turn a half hour drive into a three hour journey. That problem went away - possibly after a map update - but now it's back, after a recent map update.

Every Saturday, I drive to a couple of towns for a little over a hundred miles of driving. I use the GPS just because it's there, and it records video of the trip. Yesterday, it went back to its old habit of turning a short trip into a long one. It wasn't until I was almost in the town that it caught up. This glitch would make the GPS virtually useless if I didn't know where I was going.

I emailed Garmin about this a few months ago, and I'll email them again. You'd think it would be simple enough to isolate toll bridges from toll roads. The Setup Menu actually asks about toll roads.
About a year ago, I had a problem with my Garmin D... (show quote)


I too just bought the Garmin 50LtmHd version. Thanks for the heads up Jerry.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:41:57   #
Ollieboy
 
fourlocks wrote:
My wife and I used GPS-based "Waze" on our road trip to the Blue Ridge Mountains, last April, but only as a backup to hard copy maps I printed from Google Maps and even a Rand McNally U.S. road atlas. GPS programs are great when they work properly but I still like to know ahead of time the roads I'll be seeing and I'll be needing to take. These programs are rigid in their thinking, too. For example, Waze told us to get off the highway and go through about 20 miles of traffic when it would have been much quicker to drive about 2 miles past our destination to the next exit and double back two miles. Apparently it lacks the logic flexibility to let you go beyond your destination even though it would be shorter, time-wise. As you noted, though, it could have been "user error" in setting it up.
My wife and I used GPS-based "Waze" on o... (show quote)

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Jun 2, 2019 08:45:46   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
A way exists, I hear, to program a cellular telephone to receive and display GPS information. Setting it up for this mode involves unstated assumptions, technical talk, and complicated directions.

One would suppose that the makers of these devices could include a one-button setting to invoke the GPS mode, or else an app for this purpose.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:46:37   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
foathog wrote:
how are you going to avoid a toll bridge? Take a ferry??? I find that the only reliable unit I have is the old Garmin in which I TYPE the destination. My Apple and Ford navigation systems must not be familiar with the English language. I'll say (very distinctively) 200 Main st Asheville and it will give me directions to 430 Broad Ave Banner Elk. NOT EVEN CLOSE!! A lot of cursing occurs in my car. LOL


The ferry wouldn't be free, either. : )

What it does is take me far north, beyond the river. Not very practical.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:47:10   #
Ollieboy
 
As I understand, Google bought waze recently. I bought my Garmin recently because as I read , Google will soon be sellng your trip locations to third parties for advertising. You will soon be getting ads from businesses that were close to where you were at some time.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:47:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
anotherview wrote:
A way exists, I hear, to program a cellular telephone to receive and display GPS information. Setting it up for this mode involves unstated assumptions, technical talk, and complicated directions.

One would suppose that the makers of these devices could include a one-button setting to invoke the GPS mode, or else an app for this purpose.


I can do that with my cell phone, but it would use data. I have TracFone, and I pay for data, so it wouldn't be worth it.

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Jun 2, 2019 08:49:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Gasman57 wrote:
I too just bought the Garmin 50LtmHd version. Thanks for the heads up Jerry.


It's a fantastic GPS. It's also a dashcam, it tells you when you're drifting out of your lane, when cars in front are too close, when traffic stopped at a light has started moving, and it gives warnings about curves, animal crossings, and speed cameras.

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Jun 2, 2019 09:04:45   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
I have a GPS in my car. I use it for an entire journey such as Brooklyn, New York to Fredonia, New York. I have done it several times. Each time, I go a little different way. As for the settings, I really don't care about paying tolls. (If I travel the road enough, they should name it after me. LOL) I have noticed slight differences but don't really care as long as the damn thing doesn't tell me to drive into a lake or a ditch. Now that we think about it, it is may have to do with repositioning of the satellite. That may be why the GPS misbehaves. Needless to say, my glove box is no longer full of maps just CDs. That little thing is a marvel of technology even if I don't understand how it works. Finallty, I hide the GPS in the trunk and wipe the smudge off the windshield. That way, no one knows I have it to break into my car to steal it.
Drive Safe!
Happy Shooting!

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Jun 2, 2019 09:12:47   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I have a built in gos in my car, a Lincoln MKX. The routing is unpredictable enough that I rely more and more on Android Auto. I’ve found that its effect on my phone data plan is negligible. The gps auto does an excellent job of keeping me off toll routes if engaged. Toll bridges or ferries/barges are a crap shoot.

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