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Aug 22, 2012 23:49:21   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
hlmichel wrote:
lost_found wrote:
hlmichel wrote:
sinatraman wrote:
retail no longer trains their people. to get low prices they have cut out training, pay minimum wage, and then wonder where are the good employees? those who are competent they work to death. I have worked for best buy as a yellow shirt (loss prevention) sales for sears and dillards. both horrible employers.


I work with a guy who used to work for bestbuy....oh the stories he tells....


Circuit City changed their compensation packages to get competitive with Best Buy. Lost their best sales people and went out of business. Now without the pressure from CC Best Buy is on the verge of disappearing. I guess $8.00 per hour help is not the formula of success in the electronics business. No wonder Apple puts their own people in there. Who’s next?
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Greed has been the downfall of so many retailers.

1) Try to increase the profits at the expense of the employees.
2) Replace qualified employees with....uh....unqualified.....employees
3) Alienate customer base, thus reducing profit margins.
4) repeat steps 1-3 until company is dead.

In my youth, I watched this happen at my place of work...FEDCO.
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I remember Fedco I used to shop there on La Cienega on the West Side. What a store!

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Aug 23, 2012 00:24:01   #
sinatraman Loc: Vero Beach Florida, Earth,alpha quaudrant
 
how about the greed of consumers? they want Cadillac quality at a KIA price, and that ain't happening. when I worked retail, i could have had 2 stacks of Levis one stack made in the US and another made in Mexico. Even if the American made ones were only 5 bucks more expensive, I d sell out of the Mexican made ones first. If you have to keep prices dirt cheap guess what, the quality goes down, customer service goes down, employee pay, training and benefits get cut simply to keep the doors open. Look at JC Penny. Under their new ever day low prices strategy, the prices of goods is actually lower then what they where under their have a sale every week and give coupons strategy, but their customers are revolting. Apparently they want the appearance of discounts over the reality of discounts. Retailers know that a customer wont buy until they think they have saved. for example say a mens polo style shirt. they know that consumers will pay 20 dollars for said shirt. but if they price it at 20 dollars it will sit there unsold. If they price it at 40 dollars then "reduce " it 50 % off to 20 dollars it will sell like hotcakes. customers are cheap.

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Aug 23, 2012 01:30:19   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
sinatraman wrote:
how about the greed of consumers? they want Cadillac quality at a KIA price, and that ain't happening. when I worked retail, i could have had 2 stacks of Levis one stack made in the US and another made in Mexico. Even if the American made ones were only 5 bucks more expensive, I d sell out of the Mexican made ones first. If you have to keep prices dirt cheap guess what, the quality goes down, customer service goes down, employee pay, training and benefits get cut simply to keep the doors open. Look at JC Penny. Under their new ever day low prices strategy, the prices of goods is actually lower then what they where under their have a sale every week and give coupons strategy, but their customers are revolting. Apparently they want the appearance of discounts over the reality of discounts. Retailers know that a customer wont buy until they think they have saved. for example say a mens polo style shirt. they know that consumers will pay 20 dollars for said shirt. but if they price it at 20 dollars it will sit there unsold. If they price it at 40 dollars then "reduce " it 50 % off to 20 dollars it will sell like hotcakes. customers are cheap.
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Consumers today want perceived value and need an incentive to spend their money today. Limited time price reductions instill a sense of urgency in the buyer. Urgency is why December 22 and not Black Friday is usually the biggest retail day in many retail sectors. JCP's change to everyday low pricing is exactly what Sears tried when their business first started falling off in the late 1980's. It didn't work then and it certainly will not work now. The head of JCP is from Apple. Apple has a built-in market that they have cultivated for the past 8 years. Their marketing has positioned their products as aspirational in the highly profitable 18-35 market demographic. Apple sells the most expensive items in their category and never reduces the price until the product is scheduled for replacement. This is not the same as selling sheets, bedding, office appropriate attire and kids clothing. He has attempted to duplicate the Apple system with JCP. JCP is not an aspirational store and (it really never was) and the 18-35 demographic only shops there if their income is below 50K or they have children. JCP has always been a middle income commodity store selling nice things to fill the basic needs of its consumers. In the past 25 years they have done a very good job of surviving the plight that reduced Sears to rubble by focusing on their core values. Good merchandise at a good price. In the past 6 months the tactics put in place have literally cast doubt on the business' sustainability past the holiday season this year.

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Aug 23, 2012 06:05:31   #
rfbccb Loc: Central Mississippi
 
I have had no problem with Best Buy. I always research what I am going to buy online. If you take that initiative you could care less how much the salesperson knows. I have a mobility problen so I usually buy online. Recently purchased a Epson 845 printer. Was on sale at Epson site for 139.00. Best Buy was 99.00 with free shipping. Had the printer in 2 days. Personal research solves most of the problems.

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Aug 23, 2012 07:02:03   #
Lancer W/A Canon Loc: atlanta
 
ngc1514 wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Well, everyone's favorite shopping destination to hate is skidding out of control with a 90% drop in profits. In recent years I have shopped in Best Buy only a handful of times and each time resulted in an exercise in futility. So let's have this thread be a Best Buy forum where you can report your experiences both good and bad with the blue shirts.

Never had any problems with Best Buy. You knew their prices were not going to be rock bottom, but if you needed a new external drive on a Sunday afternoon, they were close and had the best variety of stock around.

And then Fry's and Tiger Direct came to the Atlanta area... Where else can you go to buy a handful of 1/4 watt resistors, a dual-trace o'scope and a Yamaha grand player piano under the same roof at 4 PM on a Sunday afternoon?

Haven't been back to Best Buy since.
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Was just in Stuart visiting, lived there 74-83 was fun back then, of course was younger too.

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Aug 23, 2012 07:03:06   #
steve03 Loc: long Lsland
 
I went to my Best buy to buy a slide converter and asked a young blue shirt where they were. She explained she was a new employee and would get a supervisor. In the mean time I found the slide converter. When they returned the supervisor just said we do not carry that item as he was looking at the converter under my arm.

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Aug 23, 2012 08:34:26   #
Photoquilter Loc: Virginia
 
RixPix wrote:
Well, everyone's favorite shopping destination to hate is skidding out of control with a 90% drop in profits. In recent years I have shopped in Best Buy only a handful of times and each time resulted in an exercise in futility. So let's have this thread be a Best Buy forum where you can report your experiences both good and bad with the blue shirts.


Went over to BB this weekend to "touch" the D7000. I brought a lens and a flash card so I could play a bit with the store demo. Wrong - the D7000 takes SD, not flash. A young blue shirt came over to see what I was doing, I guess, because he could not answer any questions. I told him I had been looking on-line, but obviously didn't get all the details since I brought the wrong memory card. He was most unhelpful.

I ordered the D7000 from B&H and, for the first time, they disappointed me by leaving out one item in my order - the memory card! (A quick phone call and it is on its way, with their sincere apology). So, back to BB to get a card so I could play. An older BB waited on me immediately, asked lots of questions about what I needed the card for, etc. He was most helpful - and disappointed to hear I had gotten the D7000 on-line. He said BB had it for the same price (no) or would probably have matched it (maybe).

Not saying I would have bought it from BB, but can see why they are struggling. What employees know about products, policy, and service is very inconsistent.

Barb

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Aug 23, 2012 08:45:29   #
workhorse Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Here in Nashville we have had a large mall go the way of the retail stores for the same reason. Alienate your clientel and you go out of business.

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Aug 23, 2012 09:02:15   #
ThePapaJohn Loc: All over the world.. Currently WA
 
photo guy wrote:
I have seen way too many Best Buy blue shirts in the store nearest me who have little to absolutely NO knowledge of what they should know or do and know almost to for sure don't know anything about products in question.


I've seen way too many Blue Shirts in Best Buy before... :lol: http://improveverywhere.com/2006/04/23/best-buy/

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Aug 23, 2012 09:13:24   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
ThePapaJohn wrote:
photo guy wrote:
I have seen way too many Best Buy blue shirts in the store nearest me who have little to absolutely NO knowledge of what they should know or do and know almost to for sure don't know anything about products in question.


I've seen way too many Blue Shirts in Best Buy before... :lol: http://improveverywhere.com/2006/04/23/best-buy/


Hey Doc ..... I think it's funny that someone would go through all that in the first place .....

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Aug 23, 2012 09:30:56   #
RLK Loc: New Castle, PA/Stafford, VA
 
My biggest problem with Best Buy is that they run through High School kids like pouring water out of a bucket and they will fire kids for any reason, even for rude customers complaining that they did not receive the help or information they were looking for. Having said that, I have had nothing but great service in my purchases and the warranty work whenever it was required. Whenever I had a problem, I found going to the manager always resolved the issue.
Nikon had a firmware problem with the D5100 and Best Buy exchanged my camera three times with no complaints. I recently broke the flange on one of my lens and returned it for warranty repair and they gave me a loaner until my lens was repaired. Took about two weeks and cost me nothing.


RixPix wrote:
Well, everyone's favorite shopping destination to hate is skidding out of control with a 90% drop in profits. In recent years I have shopped in Best Buy only a handful of times and each time resulted in an exercise in futility. So let's have this thread be a Best Buy forum where you can report your experiences both good and bad with the blue shirts.

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Aug 23, 2012 09:37:40   #
Phreedom Loc: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
 
ggttc wrote:
RixPix wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Well, everyone's favorite shopping destination to hate is skidding out of control with a 90% drop in profits. In recent years I have shopped in Best Buy only a handful of times and each time resulted in an exercise in futility. So let's have this thread be a Best Buy forum where you can report your experiences both good and bad with the blue shirts.


I have many stories...he's the worst one.

We bought a new $1200 Front Load Whirlpool Clothes Washer from Best Buy a few years ago. We paid for the extra warranty. About two years into ownership the washer stopped working with a load of clothes stuck inside. We called Best Buy explained the situation and told them that the washer was installed as a stacked pair with the matching dryer and the dryer would need to be removed from the washer if they needed to access the top of the washer to service it. Of course, the person taking the call said that it would not be a problem. Four days later a single service tech showed up looked at the stack and said he had to have two people and why didn't I tell them the dryer was on top of the washer. I said I did, he said they didn't tell him. He left telling me to call again and request two techs. I called that day and requested two techs. The girl on the phone said they could not send two techs without an evaluation by a single tech. I said he just left telling me to call for two techs. She said that the tech must make the request and told me to tell him to come to the phone. I told her he had just left. She said she would contact him. A week later (they only come to my area on Wednesdays.) Another single tech show up and says we need two techs and tries to leave. I told him to call and make the request. He called and the following Wednesday two techs showed up at my door. One fellow was about 4 foot 10 inches tall and weighed about 100 pounds, the other was about 6 foot tall and weighed about 350 pounds. The took one look at the dryer on top of the washer and said they couldn't lift it because I need to specify a lift team on the service request. The little who spoke only Spanish made the cal in Spanish to someone the larger fellow told me someone would be back. The following Wednesday two young strong and lean men came and lifted the dryer off the washer opened the front panel on the washer (there is no panel on the top of the washer) and said I needed a new board. They ordered the board. Two days later the board showed up and the following Wednesday the short guy and the heavy guy showed up and tried to leave because they were not a lift team. I told them there was no panel to access on the top and they made a call (in Spanish). The little guy opened the panel installed the board, plugged in the washer and the washer spun drained and opened. The clothes were ruined but at least my laundromat days were over. The following day I tried to use the washer and found that only half of the myriad of buttons worked. I suspected that they had installed the incorrect part and called Whirlpool. The person at Whirlpool walked me through opening the panel and removing the board. Sure enough the part was incorrect. Whirlpool sent someone the next day with the correct part. The washer was finally repaired. A month later I got a bill from Best Buy for $393.50 because Whirlpool sent emergency service which was not covered under the Best Buy Extended Warranty I had purchased. After three long phone calls the bill was cancelled.
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Had a similar experince with sears...new refrigerator...they took the old one out...then we realized that the doors open the wrong way from the one we ordered...bring the old refrigerator back in...take the new one back...10 days later bring the new refrigerator...doors open the wrong way...
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I once took a Craftsman lawn mower in to Sears Service Center to have the reel blades sharpened and the bed adjusted.
$30 of a $60 bill was for draining gas tank and adjusting the carburetor. When I asked them to show me the motor on the push mower, they cancelled that portion of the bill. :XD:

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Aug 23, 2012 09:45:30   #
CanonJC
 
photo guy wrote:
I have seen way too many Best Buy blue shirts in the store nearest me who have little to absolutely NO knowledge of what they should know or do and know almost to for sure don't know anything about products in question. I visited 1 store back in December 2011 and asked some questions on cameras and both the employees didn't know anything about the models I was looking at and I ended up telling them some of the information. That is sad.


Aye, I concur. It caused due to lack of trained them after hired.
I am no longer Best Buy shopper for over 3 yrs.

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Aug 23, 2012 10:00:25   #
CanonJC
 
Wabbit wrote:
RixPix wrote:
Well, everyone's favorite shopping destination to hate is skidding out of control with a 90% drop in profits. In recent years I have shopped in Best Buy only a handful of times and each time resulted in an exercise in futility. So let's have this thread be a Best Buy forum where you can report your experiences both good and bad with the blue shirts.


Hey Doc ..... Best Buy gets sued for $54 million over a lost Lap Top

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9062621/Woman_sues_Best_Buy_for_54M_in_alleged_lost_laptop_coverup
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Wow! Best Buy ought to be padlocked and out of business for good.

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Aug 23, 2012 10:12:37   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
Best Buy has lost their customer following because of the long list of "Un's":

1. Uncompetetive pricing.
2. Unskilled and untrained sales people.
3. Unfriendly return policy (restocking fees).
4. Unfriendly customer service.

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