I have the Adobe subscription with the Lightrooms, etc. After six years of wear and tear on my first "smartphone", I had to buy a new one. The new phone is costing me about a dollar a day for two years with Verizon.
The new phone shoots RAW. That's cool if you are a Lightroom addict. With some pieces in the Adobe plan in place and connected, I can shoot RAW on the phone and they will Import into Lightroom Classic on my desk computer without me doing any card swapping, button pushing or anything else. The RAWs are just there!
Shouldn't we be able to do this with "real" cameras?
bsprague wrote:
I have the Adobe subscription with the Lightrooms, etc. After six years of wear and tear on my first "smartphone", I had to buy a new one. The new phone is costing me about a dollar a day for two years with Verizon.
The new phone shoots RAW. That's cool if you are a Lightroom addict. With some pieces in the Adobe plan in place and connected, I can shoot RAW on the phone and they will Import into Lightroom Classic on my desk computer without me doing any card swapping, button pushing or anything else. The RAWs are just there!
Shouldn't we be able to do this with "real" cameras?
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Maybe one can with a WIFI camera???
bsprague wrote:
I have the Adobe subscription with the Lightrooms, etc. After six years of wear and tear on my first "smartphone", I had to buy a new one. The new phone is costing me about a dollar a day for two years with Verizon.
The new phone shoots RAW. That's cool if you are a Lightroom addict. With some pieces in the Adobe plan in place and connected, I can shoot RAW on the phone and they will Import into Lightroom Classic on my desk computer without me doing any card swapping, button pushing or anything else. The RAWs are just there!
Shouldn't we be able to do this with "real" cameras?
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Interesting - I have a Canon R with WiFi...I wonder?
Longshadow and Daniel,
Maybe if the cameras have a WiFi connection like in the same room or building as the computer.
What I'm trying to describe is going somewhere, anywhere, else and shooting an image (even RAW) on the phone. When you return to your desk, you do nothing to get the file to your computer. It is already there.
Granted that this might not work well if I shoot 1000 RAWs at a wedding or something. 4G bandwidth would struggle. When 5G comes, who knows.
My point is that my phone is better at this than my camera.
bsprague wrote:
Longshadow and Daniel,
Maybe if the cameras have a WiFi connection like in the same room or building as the computer.
What I'm trying to describe is going somewhere, anywhere, else and shooting an image (even RAW) on the phone. When you return to your desk, you do nothing to get the file to your computer. It is already there.
Granted that this might not work well if I shoot 1000 RAWs at a wedding or something. 4G bandwidth would struggle. When 5G comes, who knows.
My point is that my phone is better at this than my camera.
Longshadow and Daniel, br br Maybe if the cameras... (
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Maybe if your camera went through the phone company or the internet.
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe if your camera went through the phone company or the internet.
That might be the point! We can get cameras with great glass than do next to nothing with connectivity or we can get camera phones with limited glass.
When will I be able to get a camera with great glass that will run apps and connect to the internet?
bsprague wrote:
That might be the point! We can get cameras with great glass than do next to nothing with connectivity or we can get camera phones with limited glass.
When will I be able to get a camera with great glass that will run apps and connect to the internet?
Right now it's called a cellphone.
Maybe they'll put those features in the next generation cameras.
(But I wouldn't want to browse the internet or look at The Photographer's Ephemeris on the rear screen of the camera.)
What kind of hardware - circuit boards and antennas - does it take to connect a Nikon "device", say, to the internet, wirelessly, from anywhere? How much battery power does it take to estabalish and run that connection and transmit one or (many) more RAW files? Is there room in Nikon's current devices to install that extra hardware, and what would it do to the battery life? How much are we/you willing to pay in terms of $, size and weight to have those new features?
I'm sure Nikon, Canon and the others have all made those analyses, at least on the back of envelopes, and have decided (so far) that the addition of this kind of connectivity would not produce a business benefit for them. Who knows what kind of changes in technology and the marketplace will make them come to a different conclusion? But it's interesting to speculate.
All that fits in a thin cell phone.
NCMtnMan
Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC
Your phone automatically has a connection to the Internet through your data plan with the cell provider. Your camera doesn't. The wifi on my D7200 can be setup to act as an access point so that my wireless on my laptop can connect to it and then my camera can send files directly to it as I take them. However, this does not involve the Internet and they have to be close enough for the wifi to connect.
I'm making an assumption here, but I am assuming that you are on the Adobe Photography plan. Which means you have Lightroom Classic and Lightroom CC for mobile devices. If you have that on your phone and have the sync turned on between Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic, then your phone is automatically uploading the photos to your cloud account with Adobe and then that syncs them down to your Lightroom Classic on your computer. This is one of the primary features that Adobe created in their cloud based version.
bsprague wrote:
I have the Adobe subscription with the Lightrooms, etc. After six years of wear and tear on my first "smartphone", I had to buy a new one. The new phone is costing me about a dollar a day for two years with Verizon.
The new phone shoots RAW. That's cool if you are a Lightroom addict. With some pieces in the Adobe plan in place and connected, I can shoot RAW on the phone and they will Import into Lightroom Classic on my desk computer without me doing any card swapping, button pushing or anything else. The RAWs are just there!
Shouldn't we be able to do this with "real" cameras?
I have the Adobe subscription with the Lightrooms,... (
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Personally I would not want to be trying to upload 100+ megabyte files over my smartphone data plan.
If you are talking about the .HEIC file format it is a half-breed format. Kind of a super jpeg.
Here you go with a little info.
bsprague wrote:
Longshadow and Daniel,
Maybe if the cameras have a WiFi connection like in the same room or building as the computer.
What I'm trying to describe is going somewhere, anywhere, else and shooting an image (even RAW) on the phone. When you return to your desk, you do nothing to get the file to your computer. It is already there.
Granted that this might not work well if I shoot 1000 RAWs at a wedding or something. 4G bandwidth would struggle. When 5G comes, who knows.
My point is that my phone is better at this than my camera.
Longshadow and Daniel, br br Maybe if the cameras... (
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It's called iCloud...at least with Apple. My phone does the same thing. That being said I can transfer from my camera to my phone and it will end up in my iPhoto's library on my computer.
NCMtnMan wrote:
Your phone automatically has a connection to the Internet through your data plan with the cell provider. Your camera doesn't. The wifi on my D7200 can be setup to act as an access point so that my wireless on my laptop can connect to it and then my camera can send files directly to it as I take them. However, this does not involve the Internet and they have to be close enough for the wifi to connect.
I'm making an assumption here, but I am assuming that you are on the Adobe Photography plan. Which means you have Lightroom Classic and Lightroom CC for mobile devices. If you have that on your phone and have the sync turned on between Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic, then your phone is automatically uploading the photos to your cloud account with Adobe and then that syncs them down to your Lightroom Classic on your computer. This is one of the primary features that Adobe created in their cloud based version.
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I am on the plan and it works very well with my phone. My point is that it SHOULD work as well with my camera. I can make my camera do it through my phone, but it is clunky.
BobHartung wrote:
Personally I would not want to be trying to upload 100+ megabyte files over my smartphone data plan.
If you are talking about the .HEIC file format it is a half-breed format. Kind of a super jpeg.
Here you go with a little info.
Yes, there are data plan restraints. Recently Verizon gave me an unlimited data plan on a special for old people. So far, it seems that it really is unlimited.
DanielB wrote:
It's called iCloud...at least with Apple. My phone does the same thing. That being said I can transfer from my camera to my phone and it will end up in my iPhoto's library on my computer.
With my Android phone I'm using the Adobe cloud servers. And, with camera brand specific phone apps, I can transfer camera files to the phone and they link. My point is that that is clunky. I would like to see my camera do it without my phone in the middle.
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