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May 1, 2019 10:03:29   #
rbmitch123
 
I am using Nik Software for post photo editing after doing basic editing in LR cc. When I do the editing the files they automatically end up being tif files. I was told to edit using PSD files. I am not sure how to create PSD files or the benefits of one over the other. Any insight would be appreciated.

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May 1, 2019 10:08:16   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
psd is the standard Photoshop file type.
Unless you are using Photoshop, there is no need for psd files that I can see.

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May 1, 2019 10:18:17   #
Chops Loc: Long Beach, CA
 
PSD is Photoshop's native format. It allows you to save files with adjustment features not part of the TIF specification. TIF is a standard format useful for exchange between different software and hardware. I generally use Photoshop for it's layering capabilities, so I save PSD files in case I want to go back to tweak the file. Once the PSD file is ready for production, flatten the layers and export a TIF version, then drop it into Illustrator, InDesign, or whatever you use when a project will be headed to a printing company. If the image is headed to the web I'd export a PNG file. My two cents...

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May 1, 2019 10:20:50   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
From what I have learned here and other places, other raw formats tend to be maker or software specific adaptations of TIFF files. Accordingly, as long as the data is saved 16 bits deep, there should be no issue saving any image file as a non-compressed TIFF, although in my experience those files might be somewhat larger than corresponding raw file formats, including PSD.

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May 1, 2019 10:23:25   #
Chops Loc: Long Beach, CA
 
Oh, and @rwilson1942 is spot on: Unless you need to use Photoshop you don't need to bother with saving PSD files.
I only use Photoshop for complex editing jobs. Otherwise I go straight from LR to either TIF or PNG.

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May 1, 2019 10:30:34   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rbmitch123 wrote:
I am using Nik Software for post photo editing after doing basic editing in LR cc. When I do the editing the files they automatically end up being tif files. I was told to edit using PSD files. I am not sure how to create PSD files or the benefits of one over the other. Any insight would be appreciated.


Psd files load faster in Adobe applications. They have a file size limit of 2 gb. And lossless compression is automatically applied when they are made. With tiff, there is no 2 gb file size limit, you can apply compression, including lossless compression if you wish - or not.

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May 1, 2019 10:44:15   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
I have used JPG forever...would i be bettor off sasving as PSD files when editing photos?

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May 1, 2019 10:50:33   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
charlienow wrote:
I have used JPG forever...would i be bettor off sasving as PSD files when editing photos?


JPEG is fine if you want to just use the images as exposed. But if you are going to be editing and saving the files multiple times, it can be better to save as another format that does not decay with repeated save cycles. The damage can be reduced somewhat via JPEG format choices, but not completely eliminated. So if files are to be post processed, capturing them in the camera as raw or TIFF images would be a better choice due to the increased image depth (14 or 16 bit versus 8).

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May 1, 2019 10:52:39   #
Chops Loc: Long Beach, CA
 
charlienow wrote:
I have used JPG forever...would i be bettor off sasving as PSD files when editing photos?


Yep. JPG is a "lossy" compression format. That means it compresses the file by taking an average of neighboring pixels and lumping them together, so you lose some detail every time you save. A fun test is to take a photo and save it as JPG with a fairly high compression setting. Re-save it several times and you will start to see the artifacts of JPG compression.
JPG can be great for emailing images but don't use it while you're editing and saving.

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May 1, 2019 14:38:46   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
I use raw in camera...after processing i usually use jpg format for saving, etc...would i get better prints if i used tiff or psd for saving...ps elements 2019 wants to save in psd...

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May 1, 2019 14:50:30   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
charlienow wrote:
I use raw in camera...after processing i usually use jpg format for saving, etc...would i get better prints if i used tiff or psd for saving...ps elements 2019 wants to save in psd...


Either of those file types would allow more latitude for final adjustments for printing, if needed. My printer prefers that I bring TIFF files.

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May 2, 2019 00:25:25   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
charlienow wrote:
I have used JPG forever...would i be bettor off sasving as PSD files when editing photos?


That depends on what you mean by better.

PSD preserves layers and you can always open and re-edit a PSD in photoshop, and have all the layers available. But PSD files are much bigger than JPEG files. A lot bigger.

When you save an edited JPEG do you save with a different name so as not to destroy the original? If you save as PSD it won't change the original JPG file. When you save a PSD it will preserve the original color space, and PSD will save as 16 bit format vs 8 bit (JPG).

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May 2, 2019 01:14:09   #
charlienow Loc: Hershey, PA
 
Since I start with raw files I don’t worry about destroying the file. And when I do edit a jpg I add a letter to the name so I don’t change the original jpg.

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May 2, 2019 09:11:08   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Raw files procced in LR only stay as Raw until exported as JPEG if the file is sent to PS for further processing it is returned to LR as PSD and saved

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May 2, 2019 10:12:34   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Chops wrote:
PSD is Photoshop's native format. It allows you to save files with adjustment features not part of the TIF specification. TIF is a standard format useful for exchange between different software and hardware. I generally use Photoshop for it's layering capabilities, so I save PSD files in case I want to go back to tweak the file. Once the PSD file is ready for production, flatten the layers and export a TIF version, then drop it into Illustrator, InDesign, or whatever you use when a project will be headed to a printing company. If the image is headed to the web I'd export a PNG file. My two cents...
PSD is Photoshop's native format. It allows you to... (show quote)


TIF or TIFF files are an ISO standard (ISO 12639) file format. PSD is proprietary to Adobe. Otherwise they save the same information such as Layers and Masks as well as any added channels. I use TIF files rather than PSD so I can print through my RIP, open in NIK or other software in a seamless manner.

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