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What Crime did President Trump commit?
Apr 18, 2019 23:33:44   #
drainbamage
 
Someone sent me this, and I think it's a great question:

"Impeachment can be charged when there is a conviction of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Treason and Bribery are clear enough, but the concluding phrase “other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” is anything but clear. In the context of impeachment, this means that the Constitution cannot be expected to specify in detail every ground on which impeachment is or is not permissible. If it attempted to do so, an individual who should be impeached might evade this punishment because the officer’s conduct does not meet some technical element of the definition even though the officer’s conduct had so harmed the nation that all agree the officer should be removed. Instead, the Constitution sets forth the general principle of impeachment and leaves its more specific definition to be developed by the House of Representatives and the Senate." - reference: https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretations/the-scope-of-the-impeachment-power

So the "officer" in question is President Trump. And Congress would have to come up with something that Trump did to harm the nation that all would agree that he should be removed. What on earth could that be? That he called the investigation a "witch hunt"? That he called it a "hoax"? What horrible thing has he done to harm our nation? He had no problem with the Mueller report being released to the public before Barr wrote his summary letter. He turned down an invitation to use his executive privilege to redact anything from Mueller's report. The economy is in the best shape it has been in for decades. Unemployment is at an all time low EVER. What will the Dems manufacture to convince everyday Americans that Trump has harmed America? Any guesses?

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Apr 19, 2019 01:00:01   #
jcboy3
 
drainbamage wrote:
Someone sent me this, and I think it's a great question:

"Impeachment can be charged when there is a conviction of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Treason and Bribery are clear enough, but the concluding phrase “other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” is anything but clear. In the context of impeachment, this means that the Constitution cannot be expected to specify in detail every ground on which impeachment is or is not permissible. If it attempted to do so, an individual who should be impeached might evade this punishment because the officer’s conduct does not meet some technical element of the definition even though the officer’s conduct had so harmed the nation that all agree the officer should be removed. Instead, the Constitution sets forth the general principle of impeachment and leaves its more specific definition to be developed by the House of Representatives and the Senate." - reference: https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretations/the-scope-of-the-impeachment-power

So the "officer" in question is President Trump. And Congress would have to come up with something that Trump did to harm the nation that all would agree that he should be removed. What on earth could that be? That he called the investigation a "witch hunt"? That he called it a "hoax"? What horrible thing has he done to harm our nation? He had no problem with the Mueller report being released to the public before Barr wrote his summary letter. He turned down an invitation to use his executive privilege to redact anything from Mueller's report. The economy is in the best shape it has been in for decades. Unemployment is at an all time low EVER. What will the Dems manufacture to convince everyday Americans that Trump has harmed America? Any guesses?
Someone sent me this, and I think it's a great que... (show quote)


Fraud. Collusion. Conspiracy. Treason. Farting in public. Picking his nose in public. Being an asshole.

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Apr 19, 2019 01:14:31   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
drainbamage wrote:
Someone sent me this, and I think it's a great question:

"Impeachment can be charged when there is a conviction of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Treason and Bribery are clear enough, but the concluding phrase “other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” is anything but clear. In the context of impeachment, this means that the Constitution cannot be expected to specify in detail every ground on which impeachment is or is not permissible. If it attempted to do so, an individual who should be impeached might evade this punishment because the officer’s conduct does not meet some technical element of the definition even though the officer’s conduct had so harmed the nation that all agree the officer should be removed. Instead, the Constitution sets forth the general principle of impeachment and leaves its more specific definition to be developed by the House of Representatives and the Senate." - reference: https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretations/the-scope-of-the-impeachment-power

So the "officer" in question is President Trump. And Congress would have to come up with something that Trump did to harm the nation that all would agree that he should be removed. What on earth could that be? That he called the investigation a "witch hunt"? That he called it a "hoax"? What horrible thing has he done to harm our nation? He had no problem with the Mueller report being released to the public before Barr wrote his summary letter. He turned down an invitation to use his executive privilege to redact anything from Mueller's report. The economy is in the best shape it has been in for decades. Unemployment is at an all time low EVER. What will the Dems manufacture to convince everyday Americans that Trump has harmed America? Any guesses?
Someone sent me this, and I think it's a great que... (show quote)


His Crimes?

1) He left the Democrat Party
2) He didn't worship The Obama
3) He destroyed Queen Clinton in the election.

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Apr 19, 2019 01:34:57   #
jcboy3
 
WNYShooter wrote:
His Crimes?

1) He left the Democrat Party
2) He didn't worship The Obama
3) He destroyed Queen Clinton in the election.


What we need is some exploding cheeseburgers.

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Apr 19, 2019 09:34:02   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
The term "High crimes and misdemeanors" goes back to old English Law. It doesn't refer to a specific crime but to an egregious abuse of power.
So, although I think the better way to go at this point is to beat Trump at the polls, he could be impeached. However, there is probably no way he would be convicted in the Senate and then he would become even bolder.
I'd support Impeachment if the Republicans were on board with it but right now they're members of the Trump Party, not the Republican Party.

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Apr 19, 2019 10:14:17   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Frank T wrote:
The term "High crimes and misdemeanors" goes back to old English Law. It doesn't refer to a specific crime but to an egregious abuse of power.
So, although I think the better way to go at this point is to beat Trump at the polls, he could be impeached. However, there is probably no way he would be convicted in the Senate and then he would become even bolder.
I'd support Impeachment if the Republicans were on board with it but right now they're members of the Trump Party, not the Republican Party.
The term "High crimes and misdemeanors" ... (show quote)


Exactly what crime has Trump commited? Not obstruction. there was no crime, therefore no obstruction. The only offense that Trump is guilty of is winning the election. To many he is an obnoxius SOB. Maybe so, but if everyone who is guilty of this would be prosecuted for this Everyone would be in jail. The only thing that Trump is guilty of is being Trump. The hatred of him by many dems borders on the definition of insanity, there can not be any other reason.

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Apr 19, 2019 10:47:59   #
Bill 45
 
The crime that Trump commited is being himself which is a moron.

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Apr 19, 2019 11:51:46   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Frank T wrote:
The term "High crimes and misdemeanors" goes back to old English Law. It doesn't refer to a specific crime but to an egregious abuse of power.
So, although I think the better way to go at this point is to beat Trump at the polls, he could be impeached. However, there is probably no way he would be convicted in the Senate and then he would become even bolder.
I'd support Impeachment if the Republicans were on board with it but right now they're members of the Trump Party, not the Republican Party.
The term "High crimes and misdemeanors" ... (show quote)

There will be investigations in the House, because we know that the Senate is currently controlled by the kowtowing, cowards in the GOP, who have turned their backs on their Constitutional duties to be the check on the Executive Branch of the trump administration.

The evidence is contained in the Mueller Report (https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf ) of 11 incidences where trump either Obstructed Justice, or instructed his subordinates to obstruct justice. At least some individuals in the trump administration thwarted trump's efforts at Obstruction by not carrying out the trump orders or wishes.

More than once, the Mueller Team has quoted news stories as evidence of what trump did. That blows the Right's argument about "fake news".

Sarah Sanders was called out for lying to the press about FBI support for trump, when she was interviewed by the Mueller Team.

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Apr 19, 2019 11:53:12   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
boberic wrote:
Exactly what crime has Trump commited? Not obstruction. there was no crime, therefore no obstruction. The only offense that Trump is guilty of is winning the election. To many he is an obnoxius SOB. Maybe so, but if everyone who is guilty of this would be prosecuted for this Everyone would be in jail. The only thing that Trump is guilty of is being Trump. The hatred of him by many dems borders on the definition of insanity, there can not be any other reason.

There doesn't have to be a crime for Obstruction of Justice to be committed.

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Apr 19, 2019 13:01:51   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
boberic wrote:
Exactly what crime has Trump commited? Not obstruction. there was no crime, therefore no obstruction. The only offense that Trump is guilty of is winning the election. To many he is an obnoxius SOB. Maybe so, but if everyone who is guilty of this would be prosecuted for this Everyone would be in jail. The only thing that Trump is guilty of is being Trump. The hatred of him by many dems borders on the definition of insanity, there can not be any other reason.


Did you read my post at all?

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Apr 19, 2019 13:09:24   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There doesn't have to be a crime for Obstruction of Justice to be committed.


OK Then please explain just how did Trump interfere with the Meuller investigation? Intereference is also obstruction.

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Apr 19, 2019 17:07:33   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
There will be investigations in the House, because we know that the Senate is currently controlled by the kowtowing, cowards in the GOP, who have turned their backs on their Constitutional duties to be the check on the Executive Branch of the trump administration.

The evidence is contained in the Mueller Report (https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf ) of 11 incidences where trump either Obstructed Justice, or instructed his subordinates to obstruct justice. At least some individuals in the trump administration thwarted trump's efforts at Obstruction by not carrying out the trump orders or wishes.

More than once, the Mueller Team has quoted news stories as evidence of what trump did. That blows the Right's argument about "fake news".

Sarah Sanders was called out for lying to the press about FBI support for trump, when she was interviewed by the Mueller Team.
There will be investigations in the House, because... (show quote)

PLEASE! Quickly run to the bathroom or kitchen, whichever is closer, stick your head in the sink, turn on the water and PUT YOUR HAIR OUT.

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Apr 20, 2019 09:46:29   #
Bill 45
 
Ok folks I would love the Moron to be kick out into the street and the rats have at him. Impeachment is not going to happen. It bad as it is with the Moron, would you want the VP running things? The only way to put an end to the Moron is to vote in Nov. 2020. So get off your ass and work to put an end of the Moron.

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