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Apr 16, 2019 13:15:00   #
photogeneralist Loc: Lopez Island Washington State
 
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?

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Apr 16, 2019 13:18:22   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Depending on the bird and distance, you may find a tripod and gibmal head is the solution.

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Apr 16, 2019 13:28:36   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Or even a monopod.

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Apr 16, 2019 13:35:36   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


I do not use a single point when shooting BIF's, as I find it hard too, to keep it on a birds eye, but I use multiple points, which for me, makes that a lot easier! I can either let my camera track the bird, or as I prefer, have my finger on the joystick and just have whatever focus point (of my choise), ride right along with the bird!

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Apr 16, 2019 13:40:19   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Depending on the bird and distance, you may find a tripod and gibmal head is the solution.



This and increase your focus points to 9 or so for BIF.


photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


Also, if your lens has it, put it in the panning mode for better image stability.

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Apr 16, 2019 13:40:54   #
traveler90712 Loc: Lake Worth, Fl.
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


If you are using a lens like, 150-600 or 200-500 (heavy lens), I strongly suggest a tripod and gimbal.
If the lens are smaller, a monopod should suffice.
I strongly suggest always use Back Button Focus.

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Apr 16, 2019 14:06:12   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


Hand holding is the best method for BIF ! - unless the lens is too big to be manageable! - My facial stabiliser has really helped me - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-236741-1.html

I also like using a holding bracket under the lens....


(Download)

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Apr 17, 2019 05:56:36   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


Put the following on top of a sturdy tripod and enjoy.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/404536-REG/Wimberley_WH_200_Gimbal_Type_Tripod_Head.html

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Apr 17, 2019 07:43:04   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
You might also want to try a red dot finder like the Olympus EE-1. This is mounted on the hot shoe (no electrical connection; it's just there for positioning) and then, with camera on tripod/gimbal mount (or monopod) you look through the sight and simply keep the red dot on target. Rather than mashing your face to the back of the camera in order to view through the eyepiece, viewing through a 2" "glass window" from a few inches back allows you to see the surrounding area while keeping the subject in the focus (center) area of the shot.

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Apr 17, 2019 08:48:13   #
ronz Loc: Florida
 
Not sure the Wimberly is the right answer but not too far off, you will just be about $650 lighter. Would suggest you try one first, they are very nice but some do have problems using them.

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Apr 17, 2019 09:34:33   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?

Shutter speed can have a whole lot of say in the matter. I've shot as high as 2000+ in order to get what I wanted.

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Apr 17, 2019 09:36:09   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
Hand holding is the best method for BIF ! - unless the lens is too big to be manageable! - My facial stabiliser has really helped me - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-236741-1.html

I also like using a holding bracket under the lens....


Gotta love the DIY!!!

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Apr 17, 2019 09:45:25   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
imagemeister wrote:
Hand holding is the best method for BIF ! - unless the lens is too big to be manageable! - My facial stabiliser has really helped me - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-236741-1.html

I also like using a holding bracket under the lens....


That's a cool rig. For mine, instead of the facial stabilizer I use a small shoulder stabilizer. But now that I'm thinking about it, facial would seem to be more appropriate for a camera and shoulder more for a gun.

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Apr 17, 2019 09:55:25   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Fotoartist wrote:
That's a cool rig. For mine, instead of the facial stabilizer I use a small shoulder stabilizer. But now that I'm thinking about it, facial would seem to be more appropriate for a camera and shoulder more for a gun.


I have played with shoulder stabilizers also but found I prefer the facial for most situations plus, it's small and light !
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Apr 17, 2019 10:35:24   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
photogeneralist wrote:
I have shaky hands so with a telephoto (BIF?) I have a very hard time keeping the center spot (both exposure and focus) on the bird. I even have a hard time keeping the bird in the frame. What can I do to get a better percentage of photos with BIF in the frame and even better, in focus?


Try an inexpensive red dot gunsight. I use one that costs less than $40.00. Amazon hastwo kinds: one a longesh tube and another that is short and squatty. You will need a rail and hotshoe fitting, both costing less than $15.00.
The statement about having a larger view and easier tracking is true using this sight. At 83, I too have shaky hands and using this sight and a tripod or monopod also helps greatly.

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