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House Judiciary Committee votes to give Chair Nadler authorization to subpoena the FULL Mueller Report
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Apr 3, 2019 13:08:16   #
EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA
 
The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay...

There isn't ONE shred of proof that the Mueller report exonerates the president, as is stated in the report itself - - only Barr's "non-summary summary", issued rapidly and inappropriately, opines THAT.

It seems to me that almost the entire executive branch consists of folks who are only cabable of CON-jobs (double entendre intended).

In the Attorney General confirmation hearings, Barr asserted that he wanted transparency; the prez squawked on news video to RELEASE THE FULL REPORT - - but now that the hundreds of pages have been released from Mueller to Barr, Barr cripples the intent with his own contrived synopsis, tries to get away with making an excuse for major redactions (although there are procedures in place not to do so which have been used in all other special investigations), the prez inaccurately claims exoneration, and the House Judiciary Committee feels forced to authorize subpoenaing the full report.

I cannot comprehend how not one of the 17 Pub members of the committee, who all voted NOT to agree with obtaining the subpoena, are able in good conscience to ignore the will of the people, which is currently running at about 80% favoring the full report being revealed.

PERHAPS IT'S THEIR JOBS THAT THEY COVET, OR REPRISALS FROM THE TRUMPSTER...BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM !!!


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709404618/house-judiciary-approves-subpoena-for-full-mueller-report-in-party-line-vote

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Apr 3, 2019 13:34:38   #
jcs Loc: USA
 
EllieLady wrote:
The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay...

There isn't ONE shred of proof that the Mueller report exonerates the president, as is stated in the report itself - - only Barr's "non-summary summary", issued rapidly and inappropriately, opines THAT.

It seems to me that almost the entire executive branch consists of folks who are only cabable of CON-jobs (double entendre intended).

In the Attorney General confirmation hearings, Barr asserted that he wanted transparency; the prez squawked on news video to RELEASE THE FULL REPORT - - but now that the hundreds of pages have been released from Mueller to Barr, Barr cripples the intent with his own contrived synopsis, tries to get away with making an excuse for major redactions (although there are procedures in place not to do so which have been used in all other special investigations), the prez inaccurately claims exoneration, and the House Judiciary Committee feels forced to authorize subpoenaing the full report.

I cannot comprehend how not one of the 17 Pub members of the committee, who all voted NOT to agree with obtaining the subpoena, are able in good conscience to ignore the will of the people, which is currently running at about 80% favoring the full report being revealed.

PERHAPS IT'S THEIR JOBS THAT THEY COVET, OR REPRISALS FROM THE TRUMPSTER...BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM !!!


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709404618/house-judiciary-approves-subpoena-for-full-mueller-report-in-party-line-vote
b The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay... /b ... (show quote)





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Apr 3, 2019 13:40:18   #
EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA
 
To "jcs" - -

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Apr 3, 2019 14:52:52   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
So jcs, If Trump is totally innocent, why are the Pubs worried about releasing the full report?
Seems like they should totally support the public seeing it.

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Apr 3, 2019 18:28:11   #
EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Frank T wrote:
So jcs, If Trump is totally innocent, why are the Pubs worried about releasing the full report?
Seems like they should totally support the public seeing it.

Right-eee-ooo - - on the time-honored basis of "if ya'ain't gotts nuthin' t'hide"...

But we all know he does, and his supporters are willing to facilitate him in doing so - - what a cryin' shame !!!

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Apr 3, 2019 19:37:06   #
EyeSawYou
 
Frank T wrote:
So jcs, If Trump is totally innocent, why are the Pubs worried about releasing the full report?
Seems like they should totally support the public seeing it.


You are once again making the false assertion that Republicans are worried about the releasing of the full report. Didn't you also make the assumption that we on the Right were worried about the result of Muellers investigation findings?

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Apr 3, 2019 20:59:43   #
btbg
 
EllieLady wrote:
The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay...

There isn't ONE shred of proof that the Mueller report exonerates the president, as is stated in the report itself - - only Barr's "non-summary summary", issued rapidly and inappropriately, opines THAT.

It seems to me that almost the entire executive branch consists of folks who are only cabable of CON-jobs (double entendre intended).

In the Attorney General confirmation hearings, Barr asserted that he wanted transparency; the prez squawked on news video to RELEASE THE FULL REPORT - - but now that the hundreds of pages have been released from Mueller to Barr, Barr cripples the intent with his own contrived synopsis, tries to get away with making an excuse for major redactions (although there are procedures in place not to do so which have been used in all other special investigations), the prez inaccurately claims exoneration, and the House Judiciary Committee feels forced to authorize subpoenaing the full report.

I cannot comprehend how not one of the 17 Pub members of the committee, who all voted NOT to agree with obtaining the subpoena, are able in good conscience to ignore the will of the people, which is currently running at about 80% favoring the full report being revealed.

PERHAPS IT'S THEIR JOBS THAT THEY COVET, OR REPRISALS FROM THE TRUMPSTER...BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM !!!


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709404618/house-judiciary-approves-subpoena-for-full-mueller-report-in-party-line-vote
b The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay... /b ... (show quote)


I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp, but the Republicans are voting no because it is against the law to release the entire report and the Democrats on the committee all know that. They are attempting to get access to grand jury testimony, which is absolutely illegal, as is information about anyone who Mueller decided not to indict. In addition anything that was referred by Mueller for charges outside of the purview of his his investigation can't be released.

It makes no sense to vote to violate the law, no matter what polls are showing.

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Apr 3, 2019 21:21:21   #
EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA
 
btbg wrote:
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp, but the Republicans are voting no because it is against the law to release the entire report and the Democrats on the committee all know that. They are attempting to get access to grand jury testimony, which is absolutely illegal, as is information about anyone who Mueller decided not to indict. In addition anything that was referred by Mueller for charges outside of the purview of his his investigation can't be released.

It makes no sense to vote to violate the law, no matter what polls are showing.
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp,... (show quote)

I'm VERY sorry to tell you this, but you're SOOO mistaken.

As in the case of previous final reports from special prosecutors, for both Pub (Watergate, Nixon) and Dem (Clinton), all that has to happen is a court order, and the one person responsible for asking the court, the person standing in the way, is Barr - - easy peasy...

It would be really nice if you could "grasp" the law and the truth before you lecture others, & particularly in such a condescending tone.

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Apr 4, 2019 00:08:23   #
EyeSawYou
 
EllieLady wrote:
The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay...

There isn't ONE shred of proof that the Mueller report exonerates the president, as is stated in the report itself - - only Barr's "non-summary summary", issued rapidly and inappropriately, opines THAT.

It seems to me that almost the entire executive branch consists of folks who are only cabable of CON-jobs (double entendre intended).

In the Attorney General confirmation hearings, Barr asserted that he wanted transparency; the prez squawked on news video to RELEASE THE FULL REPORT - - but now that the hundreds of pages have been released from Mueller to Barr, Barr cripples the intent with his own contrived synopsis, tries to get away with making an excuse for major redactions (although there are procedures in place not to do so which have been used in all other special investigations), the prez inaccurately claims exoneration, and the House Judiciary Committee feels forced to authorize subpoenaing the full report.

I cannot comprehend how not one of the 17 Pub members of the committee, who all voted NOT to agree with obtaining the subpoena, are able in good conscience to ignore the will of the people, which is currently running at about 80% favoring the full report being revealed.

PERHAPS IT'S THEIR JOBS THAT THEY COVET, OR REPRISALS FROM THE TRUMPSTER...BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM !!!


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709404618/house-judiciary-approves-subpoena-for-full-mueller-report-in-party-line-vote
b The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay... /b ... (show quote)


Dershowitz: "No Legal Basis" For Democrats To Demand Public Release Of Full Mueller Report

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/01/dershowitz_no_legal_basis_for_democrats_to_demand_public_release_of_full_mueller_report.html

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Apr 4, 2019 00:18:06   #
Angmo
 
Read up on the law, regulations and policies that prevent release.

Get updated with truth and fact.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:13:01   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
EllieLady wrote:
The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay...

There isn't ONE shred of proof that the Mueller report exonerates the president, as is stated in the report itself - - only Barr's "non-summary summary", issued rapidly and inappropriately, opines THAT.

It seems to me that almost the entire executive branch consists of folks who are only cabable of CON-jobs (double entendre intended).

In the Attorney General confirmation hearings, Barr asserted that he wanted transparency; the prez squawked on news video to RELEASE THE FULL REPORT - - but now that the hundreds of pages have been released from Mueller to Barr, Barr cripples the intent with his own contrived synopsis, tries to get away with making an excuse for major redactions (although there are procedures in place not to do so which have been used in all other special investigations), the prez inaccurately claims exoneration, and the House Judiciary Committee feels forced to authorize subpoenaing the full report.

I cannot comprehend how not one of the 17 Pub members of the committee, who all voted NOT to agree with obtaining the subpoena, are able in good conscience to ignore the will of the people, which is currently running at about 80% favoring the full report being revealed.

PERHAPS IT'S THEIR JOBS THAT THEY COVET, OR REPRISALS FROM THE TRUMPSTER...BUT IT CERTAINLY ISN'T TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS WHO ELECTED THEM !!!


https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709404618/house-judiciary-approves-subpoena-for-full-mueller-report-in-party-line-vote
b The vote was 24 Dems yea and 17 Pubs nay... /b ... (show quote)


You do know that it is against the law to release the FULL report? That is why democrats are demanding, they know they, by law cannot get it.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:14:12   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
btbg wrote:
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp, but the Republicans are voting no because it is against the law to release the entire report and the Democrats on the committee all know that. They are attempting to get access to grand jury testimony, which is absolutely illegal, as is information about anyone who Mueller decided not to indict. In addition anything that was referred by Mueller for charges outside of the purview of his his investigation can't be released.

It makes no sense to vote to violate the law, no matter what polls are showing.
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp,... (show quote)


You are spot on.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:16:09   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
EllieLady wrote:
I'm VERY sorry to tell you this, but you're SOOO mistaken.

As in the case of previous final reports from special prosecutors, for both Pub (Watergate, Nixon) and Dem (Clinton), all that has to happen is a court order, and the one person responsible for asking the court, the person standing in the way, is Barr - - easy peasy...

It would be really nice if you could "grasp" the law and the truth before you lecture others, & particularly in such a condescending tone.


Go read something, anything. It is against the law to release grand jury testimony, anything to do with national security, or if in the course of the investigations something is found out that could be embarrassing, but is not pertinent to the investigation, by law it cannot be revealed. So stop spouting unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

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Apr 4, 2019 10:47:16   #
EllieLady Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Elaine2025 wrote:
Go read something, anything. It is against the law to release grand jury testimony, anything to do with national security, or if in the course of the investigations something is found out that could be embarrassing, but is not pertinent to the investigation, by law it cannot be revealed. So stop spouting unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

You are also mistaken - - asked and answered, not going to do it again:

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-585893-1.html#10031969

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Apr 4, 2019 10:57:56   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
btbg wrote:
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp, but the Republicans are voting no because it is against the law to release the entire report and the Democrats on the committee all know that. They are attempting to get access to grand jury testimony, which is absolutely illegal, as is information about anyone who Mueller decided not to indict. In addition anything that was referred by Mueller for charges outside of the purview of his his investigation can't be released.

It makes no sense to vote to violate the law, no matter what polls are showing.
I know that this is hard for some of you to grasp,... (show quote)


Actually, the Repubs blocking it are doing so because they want to add an amendment to it which would allow for investigation into how false/fake information was created and used to essentially start the ball rolling which turned into the Mueller Investigation.

Me personally, I think most of America would like ALL of the information, including the Mueller report, not just limited to the report as the Dems want.

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