bleirer

Any guesses on how long it will be before I can import Canon EOS RP RAW and C-RAW pics directly into lightroom? No info on Adobe site as far as I can tell. How long does it usually take when a new camera comes out?

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

In the meantime, you can import/convert with Canon’s DPP (Digital Photo Professional) and export directly into Adobe. An extra step, but there are actually a couple of advantages to using DPP for the initial conversion - lower noise than ACR and the camera picture settings carry over even in raw which can save you a preset. Just a thought...

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

I assume you are referring to Canon's CR3 files produced by the EOS R and probably the RP also? My EOS R CR3 files open in Lightroom with no problem. All the Lightroom functions are available. Have you updated your program lately?

DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca

I have no issues with my EOS R raw files either. There has to be something else going on with his version of LR. If he is still using stand alone it's time time to go CC.

bleirer

So even though the camera is an RP not an R it will still load?

PaulBa Loc: Cardiff, Wales

I’m in the same position as the original poster.

My understanding is that Lightroom will recognise EOS R raw files but not EOS RP.

We await the appropriate Lightroom update from Adobe.

Please shout if my understanding is wrong.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Lightroom updates come about every three months. You maybe have two to go. Never announced in advance. Always a surprise.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

Both cameras put out CR3 RAW files but I just found out via Google that they are specific to each model. Currently it seems that Adobe programs can open EOS R CR3 files but not EOS RP CR3 files. As I understand it an update may be coming this month. You might want to contact Adobe and ask them.
This is not unusual. It's about the third time I've had to wait for Adobe to catch up. The price of buying something new to the market.

bleirer

Speaking of CR3, I assume there is some loss with the compression compared to RAW. Anyone know for sure?

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Here’s a link that includes comparitive testing under several different scenarios: https://www.dpreview.com/articles/0483301097/quick-look-canons-new-compressed-raw-format

bleirer

Hi TriX, can you please tell me a little more about why it is better to start with DPP rather than Lightroom. Which picture settings are affected compared to Lightroom, for example? Why is there more noise in ACR? Feel free to spell out the details.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Sure. I ran comparitive tests some time ago (I may have published the results - will have to see) between a relatively high ISO shot converted with both ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) and DPP, and the noise in the DPP converted raw image was about 1/2 stop lower. Not a huge amount, but when you’re shooting high ISO (which is essentially noise limited), every bit helps. For example, a FF is usually ~1 stop better in that respect than a crop, and you pay big $ to get that stop, so if you can get 1/2 stop “for free”, it isn’t trivial. As to the reason, I don’t know for sure but I can think of two possibilities: first, since Canon created the raw format for the camera in the first place, they may have better information as to the inner workings of the algorithm and the best way to convert, but that is just conjecture.

The other reason may be that unlike ACR, DPP applies the same in-camera settings such as contrast, sharpness, high ISO noise reduction, etc to the raw image as it does to JPEGs. Personally I find this very useful. Generally, a raw image needs some manipulation compared to a JPEG before finishing - typically at least sharpening, and often contrast, color adjustment, etc. one of the advantages often cited for JPEGs is the ability to use the image straight out of the camera without it looking “flat”. I’ve found that when using DPP, once you’ve tuned the in-camera settings, I can usually bypass those initial corrections on the raw image in post. For instance, if I find that I consistently add some contrast to raw images in post, it’s just easier to crank up the contrast in camera, saving me having to constantly use a preset or manipulate once I get to LR or PS. Since the Canons I have used enable a high ISO noise reduction by default (which is adjustable), that may be the reason DPP converted images appear less noisey.

The disadvantage to converting in DPP (even version 4.9) is that its adjustments are limited compared to PS, so I typically export to PS for finishing. There is a menu item that allows export into PS. It creates a TIFF and opens PS and the image. The downside is that if you don’t want to keep the TIFF (which is relatively large), you then have to delete it (or you can save the final image over it). Hope this helps...

Cheers

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

About 2 weeks or so. Maybe 3. You can always use your computer to download them into folders that you can create in the same or similar manor as you would in LR and when LR had the ability to process your images you simply Import them and Add them to the catalog. The images will already be exactly where you want them to be and you can start editing them with LR. In the mean time, you can open them with DPP (Canons software for raw images) and process them.

bleirer

Thank you.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Maybe the best thing to do would be to ask Adobe?

Are you just trying to download using Lightroom? Or are you trying to import into the LR catalog?

Simple downloads can be done using the computer's operating system, copying the files into a folder set up to receive them. Later you can import that folder into LR.

In the meantime, how about shooting RAW + JPEG with the camera? That way you will have immediately usable images... and something to compare with the RAW (CR3) files you post-process later.