Another guy who will say anything folks want to hear in order to save his own skin.
Ahhh yes... reminds me of the old truism... "How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving!"
I once shook hands with an honest lawyer.
I still have my right hand to prove it.
Dngallagher wrote:
Ahhh yes... reminds me of the old truism... "How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving!"
UPDATE: folks have been saying that exact same thing about tRump since his presidential campaign - - where ya been ???
If Cohen's seized material substantiates his testimony, are you open-minded enough to alter your opinion about the great orange dictator, president-for-life wannabe???
EllieLady wrote:
UPDATE: folks have been saying that exact same thing about tRump since his presidential campaign - - where ya been ???
If Cohen's seized material substantiates his testimony, are you open-minded enough to alter your opinion about the great orange dictator, president-for-life wannabe???
All it takes is PROOF... not innuendo from Shiff and Swalwell....ever wonder where the proof is after 2 years of lies from the talking heads and fake news?
Dngallagher wrote:
All it takes is PROOF... not innuendo from Shiff and Swalwell....ever wonder where the proof is after 2 years of lies from the talking heads and fake news?
Much of the evidence and documentation - - which has been used to either elicit guilty pleas from some or prove to a judge that the trial of a defendant should move forward - - has been seen by the eyes of judges, but has been either redacted or presented under seal.
And yet - - rather than receiving a dismissal or a summary judgment against the prosecution, these cases have continued to move forward.
To my way of thinking, that lends quite a bit of credibility do the documents in hand - - I may not be able to see them at this point in time, but the preponderance of evidence leads me to believe in the validity of the information. I realize that the defense's case may have a different view and could prove the information to the contrary but, in the meantime, it's pretty clear that those who have plead guilty believe they are had - - dead to rights.
If the following cases and documentation go down the same path, we reach a point where most of the thinking on guilt is irreversible. We get there over time; it isn't a matter of jumping to conclusions.
Folks seem to forget that those involved in the witch hunt are just as guilty of political shenanigans as those they accuse. If the kettle is black, so is the pot. This whole thing simply comes down to the exercise of dirty politics by all sides. I believe none of them.
Dngallagher wrote:
Ahhh yes... reminds me of the old truism... "How do you tell when a lawyer is lying? His lips are moving!"
Yep. They're all the same. Who ends up winning is usually which one is the best at lying.
EllieLady wrote:
Much of the evidence and documentation - - which has been used to either elicit guilty pleas from some or prove to a judge that the trial of a defendant should move forward - - has been seen by the eyes of judges, but has been either redacted or presented under seal.
And yet - - rather than receiving a dismissal or a summary judgment against the prosecution, these cases have continued to move forward.
To my way of thinking, that lends quite a bit of credibility do the documents in hand - - I may not be able to see them at this point in time, but the preponderance of evidence leads me to believe in the validity of the information. I realize that the defense's case may have a different view and could prove the information to the contrary but, in the meantime, it's pretty clear that those who have plead guilty believe they are had - - dead to rights.
If the following cases and documentation go down the same path, we reach a point where most of the thinking on guilt is irreversible. We get there over time; it isn't a matter of jumping to conclusions.
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Good that is the way to deal with an organized criminal conspiracy. One thing all these people had in common Trump. Most also the Russians.
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Rose42 wrote:
Yep. They're all the same. Who ends up winning is usually which one is the best at lying.
I won't go that far, but I would agree that its the 95% who are crooked that give the other 5% a bad name.
soba1
Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
EllieLady wrote:
UPDATE: folks have been saying that exact same thing about tRump since his presidential campaign - - where ya been ???
If Cohen's seized material substantiates his testimony, are you open-minded enough to alter your opinion about the great orange dictator, president-for-life wannabe???
If its irrefutable, and serious crime then yes.
But not if they are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill
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