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New Update to LR PS and a W10 Problem
Feb 13, 2019 10:01:47   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Yesterday, Adobe released new updates for LightRoom, Photoshop, and Camera Raw. One of the pages allowed you to enhance raw files which is an advanced demosaic designed to extract additional detail from some raw files.

I downloaded the updates and went to try out this new feature in Lightroom classic CC. I am using what I thought was the latest version of Windows 10 and come to find out that the version in my computer was not compatible. I tried to find the correct version automatically but the answer I got that I would have the most up-to-date version. I then downloaded the Windows 10 upgrade assistant, which then upgraded Windows to the correct version. I was then was able to run the tool. Although it may be the picture I chose, I personally did not see a major difference. Will wait and see!

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Feb 13, 2019 10:11:02   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
I look forward to giving this new tool a spin. What was the before and after size of the file? How long did the tool take to work on this particular image?

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Feb 13, 2019 10:14:33   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I did the same, including the Windows part. Then I watched a YouTube about what it does and how it works. Turns out, that the new feature might be a technological wonder but it won't do much for most of us. It may be useful for people that make very large prints.

You want the link to the YouTube?

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Feb 13, 2019 10:21:30   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
saxman71 wrote:
I look forward to giving this new tool a spin. What was the before and after size of the file? How long did the tool take to work on this particular image?


15 sec
org = 22.6
enh = 79.6

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Feb 13, 2019 11:22:36   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
mborn wrote:
Yesterday, Adobe released new updates for LightRoom, Photoshop, and Camera Raw. One of the pages allowed you to enhance raw files which is an advanced demosaic designed to extract additional detail from some raw files.

I downloaded the updates and went to try out this new feature in Lightroom classic CC. I am using what I thought was the latest version of Windows 10 and come to find out that the version in my computer was not compatible. I tried to find the correct version automatically but the answer I got that I would have the most up-to-date version. I then downloaded the Windows 10 upgrade assistant, which then upgraded Windows to the correct version. I was then was able to run the tool. Although it may be the picture I chose, I personally did not see a major difference. Will wait and see!
Yesterday, Adobe released new updates for LightRoo... (show quote)


I, and a number of other users are experiencing an issue where the new Enhance details feature produces black results. It's been reported to Adobe.

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Feb 13, 2019 11:26:17   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
DWU2 wrote:
I, and a number of other users are experiencing an issue where the new Enhance details feature produces black results. It's been reported to Adobe.


Me too. It will be fun to see what Adobe figures out on this one!

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Feb 14, 2019 06:27:12   #
kubota king Loc: NW , Pa.
 
If the requirements is having the fall 1809 version of windows 10 . I will pass . Sounds like it doesn't do anything that I will miss

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Feb 14, 2019 08:23:03   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
Is this a characteristic of the Adobe cloud software - that you always have to be at the most recent version of your OS for things to keep working?

I'm using standalone LR 6.14 on a 2012 Mac Minibut am considering switching to the Classic CC version. I understand that my computer may not/probably will not be able to run OS upgrades beyond the current Mojave.

So am I likely to find that future updates to LR CC will not be functional if I do not/cannot upgrade past Mojave? Or is the issue in this post just related to this specific new feature? Or just to Windows?

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Feb 14, 2019 08:36:17   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
wrangler5 wrote:
Is this a characteristic of the Adobe cloud software - that you always have to be at the most recent version of your OS for things to keep working?

I'm using standalone LR 6.14 on a 2012 Mac Minibut am considering switching to the Classic CC version. I understand that my computer may not/probably will not be able to run OS upgrades beyond the current Mojave.

So am I likely to find that future updates to LR CC will not be functional if I do not/cannot upgrade past Mojave? Or is the issue in this post just related to this specific new feature? Or just to Windows?
Is this a characteristic of the Adobe cloud softwa... (show quote)


It was the new feature and W10

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Feb 14, 2019 09:18:39   #
Anvil Loc: Loveland, CO
 
I tried this new feature with a couple of raw files. I saw no difference, other than the fact that the new DNG file, produced by the Enhance feature, was four times as large as the old one. It also took, on my computer, eight minutes to produce this new DNG file.

I have since done some more research about this feature. Adobe says that, for those cameras with an anti-aliasing filter, the feature won't do much. Each of my cameras has an anti-aliasing filter, which may explain why I saw no difference. Adobe also says the feature would be useful when making large prints. I have no way of testing that without sending files out to be printed, so I may never know whether this feature will be of any use to me.

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Feb 14, 2019 11:01:44   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
The Fall Windows has a new thing in it called "Window ML". "ML" means "machine learning". Artificial intelligence is new territory for me!

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/

This single new "Enhanced Detail" feature in Lightroom Classic 8.2 uses Windows ML. So if you have older versions of Windows, this single new feature does not work. Everything else works with whatever version of Windows from 7 on that you have.

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/system-requirements/earlier-versions.html

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Feb 14, 2019 17:09:45   #
pego101
 
no update here

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Feb 14, 2019 20:39:16   #
TimB72 Loc: Bedford, Texas
 
I have a Mid 2009 MacBook Pro that runs High Sierra and Lightroom Classic CC 8.2 with no problems. I used http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/ patcher to load High Sierra. Their web site says that your 2012 Mini is compatible with the patcher. There is also a patcher for Mojave but I don't want to mess with what's working. I tried the Enhanced Detail but found it not worth the time.

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Feb 15, 2019 11:26:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
What it is for:
“Introduced in the February 2019 release of Lightroom Classic (version 8.2) and powered by Adobe Sensei, Enhance Details produces crisp detail, improved color rendering, more accurate renditions of edges, and fewer artifacts. Enhance Details is especially useful for making large prints, where fine details are more visible. This feature applies to raw mosaic files from cameras with Bayer sensors (Canon, Nikon, Sony, and others) and Fujifilm X-Trans sensors.”
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/enhance-details.html

Thechnical details and when to use it:
You’ll find Enhance Details most effective on the following image types:
o Images that you want to print or display at a large size.
o Images that display artifacts.
o Images with lots of fine detail.
https://theblog.adobe.com/enhance-details/

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Feb 15, 2019 22:54:31   #
crphoto8 Loc: Anaheim, California
 
Same here - updated Win 10, enhanced 3 RAW images, can't see anything different but the enhanced files are ~10 times larger than the originals!! The process took ~15 seconds in each case.

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