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Jan 24, 2019 17:24:29   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Long, wordy posts are difficult to read and often; for that reason not read, or not read carefully.
Brevity is most effective.

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Jan 24, 2019 18:27:59   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
kenievans wrote:
Really? The last post you made in this section was not about photography. Perhaps you didn't realize where this topic was posted when you responded. It could also be a reading comprehension issue.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-570675-1.html

Kiddo check where it is posted.

Now this thread has been Emu moved to the correct section. Who says the volatile is not active?

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Jan 24, 2019 18:56:59   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I was just ranting to someone yesterday about rampant mis-use of apostrophes by writers on UHH. 99.9% of nouns do NOT take an apostrophe in order to show the plural form, including paragraphs.

In main photography discussion forum today is yet another complaint about the lack of information in topic titles. This one happened to refer to topics with photos. I thought that earth-shattering problem was solved with the addition of a "newest pictures" thumbnail view feature.

I have more suggestions; is anyone listening?
I was just ranting to someone yesterday about ramp... (show quote)

I cannot think of a single case where an apostrophe shows the plural form. Can you cite any from the 0.1% where it does?

In the possessive form there may be some confusion about where the apostrophe belongs if the word ends in “s”.

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Jan 24, 2019 19:31:58   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
selmslie wrote:
I cannot think of a single case where an apostrophe shows the plural form. Can you cite any from the 0.1% where it does?

In the possessive form there may be some confusion about where the apostrophe belongs if the word ends in “s”.
Expressions where letters or numerals are treated like words: I received all A's on my report card. The Oakland A's are a baseball team. Be sure to cross your t’s and dot your i’s.

Feel free to argue those are not nouns or to dispute my math 🙄

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Jan 24, 2019 20:11:20   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Expressions where letters or numerals are treated like words: I received all A's on my report card. The Oakland A's are a baseball team. Be sure to cross your t’s and dot your i’s.

Feel free to argue those are not nouns or to dispute my math 🙄

Glad you could come up with a couple. Those are, of course, one letter words (only 26 in our alphabet unless you include digits).

Then there are cat’s paws (one cat) cats’ paws (several cats) and Adams’s photographs. All possessive - not offenses punishable by a dunce cap.

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Jan 25, 2019 07:49:10   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Expressions where letters or numerals are treated like words: I received all A's on my report card. The Oakland A's are a baseball team. Be sure to cross your t’s and dot your i’s.

Feel free to argue those are not nouns or to dispute my math 🙄


I think it was in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" where Arthur is asked about this very issue

Old Man from Scene 24: When do you use an apostrophe?

Arthur: Do you mean according to the Chicago Manual of Style or the AP Stylebook?

Old Man from Scene 24: I don't know. (Whoooosshhhh)

So stick that in your Funk & Wagnalls!


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Jan 25, 2019 07:53:35   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
selmslie wrote:
Glad you could come up with a couple. Those are, of course, one letter words (only 26 in our alphabet unless you include digits).

Then there are cat’s paws (one cat) cats’ paws (several cats) and Adams’s photographs. All possessive - not offenses punishable by a dunce cap.



Your examples use the apostrophe to indicate possession not to show plural form, which is what Linda was saying.

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Jan 25, 2019 08:44:37   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
From the eyes of a retired English composition teacher, I’m sitting back and enjoying this discussion.

If I had had (that’s right--had had) you folks in class, some would fail, some would pass. You know who you are.

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Jan 25, 2019 09:01:28   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Your examples use the apostrophe to indicate possession not to show plural form, which is what Linda was saying.

Duh! This needs explanation?

The apostrophe is commonly used to indicate possession. She pointed to one tiny set of cases where it indicates plural.

According to How many nouns are there in English?, "There are approximately one million words in the English language and at at least fifty-five percent of those words are nouns."

Her math is a little off but that can be forgiven.

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Jan 25, 2019 09:08:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
selmslie wrote:
Duh! This needs explanation?

The apostrophe is commonly used to indicate possession. She pointed to one tiny set of cases where it indicates plural.

According to How many nouns are there in English?, "There are approximately one million words in the English language and at at least fifty-five percent of those words are nouns."

Her math is a little off but that can be forgiven.


But she was discussing the use of the apostrophe to indicate plurality. It's Its (oops) use to indicate possession was not relevant to her original comment.

Linda From Maine wrote:
I was just ranting to someone yesterday about rampant mis-use of apostrophes by writers on UHH. 99.9% of nouns do NOT take an apostrophe in order to show the plural form, including paragraphs.<snip>

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Jan 25, 2019 09:10:19   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jaymatt wrote:
From the eyes of a retired English composition teacher, I’m sitting back and enjoying this discussion.

If I had had (that’s right--had had) you folks in class, some would fail, some would pass. You know who you are.
It's = a contraction of it is or it has
its = the possessive form of it

Class dismissed 🤓

.



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Jan 25, 2019 09:11:50   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
You have written "it's" incorrectly here

It's = a contraction for it is or it has
its = the possessive form of it

Class dismissed 🤓


Fixed it.

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Jan 25, 2019 09:35:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Fixed it.
You know I still love you, right? 🤗🤗

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Jan 25, 2019 10:23:14   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Rongnongno wrote:
First off this is not about 'listening' but reading.

As to your suggestion... Really? How is this about photography? We are not taking English 101.


Lighten up, if one wants their posts read it is common courtesy to make that easy to do.

If one makes it harder to do it makes it less likely to be read.

I took the OP as sort of a PSA.

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Jan 25, 2019 14:13:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
jaymatt wrote:
From the eyes of a retired English composition teacher, I’m sitting back and enjoying this discussion.

If I had had (that’s right--had had) you folks in class, some would fail, some would pass. You know who you are.



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