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Problem with Olympus OM-D-E M1 Mark II
Jan 6, 2019 12:10:51   #
Dukesr Loc: Charleston,SC
 
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?

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Jan 6, 2019 12:19:52   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Dukesr wrote:
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?
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The only time I have seen the camera change iso, is if I set it to AUTO ISO.

Your second issue with aperture? Never heard of that on any camera.

I would check your settings. Let us know.

PS: can you take a snap of your SCP screen and post it here?

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Jan 6, 2019 12:45:18   #
Jeannie88
 
I am wondering of your AEL switch has flipped from 1 to 2. That happens sometimes on my other camera, the EM!, but Has not happened on the EM1M2. When that switch flips to 2, everything goes kinda haywire

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Jan 6, 2019 12:56:55   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
You can also go into the main menu and reset the camera to original settings and then try it again. I have had to do this once with my EM 1 MK II.

Hopefully, resetting will clear up the issue for you. If not, sending it to Olympus may be necessary.

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Jan 6, 2019 13:05:13   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
Dukesr wrote:
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?
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These temperatures are pretty cold for batteries. 90 minutes at the temperatures you describe is plenty long enough for them to get sufficiently chilled that their performance could be significantly degraded. (This is usually temporary and should self-correct when they warm back up.) But a result could very well be that battery voltage during a burst drops below what is required to keep the circuits properly powered, with the results that you have seen.

My suggestion would be to take a second battery with you and keep it inside your coat, where it can stay warm. After 45 minutes or so, swap batteries, putting the warm spare battery in the camera and the cold battery where it can warm up. I suspect that there is a good chance that the problem will go away. With some experimentation, you may find that you need to swap more often than 45 minutes or that you can go a little bit longer.

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Jan 6, 2019 13:49:08   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
larryepage wrote:
These temperatures are pretty cold for batteries. 90 minutes at the temperatures you describe is plenty long enough for them to get sufficiently chilled that their performance could be significantly degraded. (This is usually temporary and should self-correct when they warm back up.) But a result could very well be that battery voltage during a burst drops below what is required to keep the circuits properly powered, with the results that you have seen.

My suggestion would be to take a second battery with you and keep it inside your coat, where it can stay warm. After 45 minutes or so, swap batteries, putting the warm spare battery in the camera and the cold battery where it can warm up. I suspect that there is a good chance that the problem will go away. With some experimentation, you may find that you need to swap more often than 45 minutes or that you can go a little bit longer.
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I hear you about the batteries, but my original em1 with a much inferior batterie is fine all day in much colder temperatures.

I was outside for 8 hours and no issues


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Jan 6, 2019 21:50:26   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Dukesr wrote:
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?
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You can always contact Olympus and see if anyone else has reported such. And, if they have, what was done about it. The E-M1 mrII usually only goes to extremes if the cameras "sees" a requirement that requires such. Have no idea what could be causing such. Factory reset and redownload the latest update is the only other thing I can suggest.

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Jan 7, 2019 10:22:32   #
TRAVLR38 Loc: CENTRAL PA
 
If you are on auto ISO, you might have aimed the camera at a very dark object before focussing on the bird. If you half pressed to get exposure lock, you would get the correct ISO for the dark object. Then to compensate when aiming at bird, you would already have the high ISO and have to have the f/22 to compensate. It is very easy to let the camera droop and half press when your attention is distracted or you change positions, or try to get a handkerchief or something else from a pocket.

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Jan 7, 2019 13:56:24   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Although I have the em5 II, there is a lot of similarity between your camera and mine. I find that I inadvertently hit the 1-2 button or the HDR button without meaning to while shooting.

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Jan 7, 2019 22:51:27   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Dukesr wrote:
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?
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Hmmm. That is odd. You asked so yes. I think there is a problem with the hardware. I had some odd problems with my OM-D EM-5 after a firmware update. Not the same as you describe. But this is what I did. I went to a local camera store, that sells Olympus, waited for the Olympus expert and showed him the problem. He worked on it for quite a while then said “send it back”.

My problem was easy to duplicate. I suspect your problem is not easy to duplicate. So it is a much more difficult problem. QUESTION: It happened twice was there a common denominator? Temperature?

Maybe a firmware flush and reload would solve it but unfortunately Olympus does not give us that privelage. You have to send it back for that. So there is a chance that will fix it but until you have more data on when it happens, when it occurs, I don’t think sending it back would accomplish much.

You want to be able to test it after you get it back right? So you need to have an idea of when it happens.

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Jan 8, 2019 03:05:38   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Dukesr wrote:
My OM-D-E Mark II is doing strange things. The firmware in V2.0. I've been shooting BIF at low temperatures (20 F - 35 F). I've been using ISO 400, 1/2000 sec, shutter priority with the 300 mm Olympus lens. During two shooting sessions the camera suddenly changes to ISO 25600 with no warning. The f stop is changed tlo f/22. I had been shooting short bursts for about 280 shots over 90 minutes. The change occurred during 0.25 seconds. Has anyone else had this happen? Do you think the problem is worth returning the body to Olympus for repair?
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Before doing much of the several ideas, I would try reloading the firmware again. You may not be able to "dump", but it should allow you to reload even though it may indicate it is up to date.

Also, what was your metering pattern set at? Single, diamond, small square, or full screen? Also, are you using an EE-1 Viewsight for tracking BIF?

I was in Dusseldorf train station and wanted a shot with movement of the people in the station. I settled on Shutter mode at 2 seconds. Even for a lot of window, it was cloudy and rainy outside and somwhat dark in the train station. Because I let everything else "float", it automatically changed the ISO down to the minimum 64 and then changed my aperture to the minimum opening of f22 because of how "bright" the train station was at 2 seconds. Normally I would not shoot at f22 because of diffraction causing softness at that aperture (normally do not go past f11). In this case, it would have put me two stops underexposed if I had noticed and tried to change it. I have included one of the four 2 second shots to show that the E-M1 mrII will change whatever it can to try and get the shot. If it is not seeing properly from a firmware/software point of view, then in all likelihood the camera will probably have to be sent to Olympus as has been suggested.


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Jan 8, 2019 03:26:26   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
wdross wrote:
Before doing much of the several ideas, I would try reloading the firmware again. You may not be able to "dump", but it should allow you to reload even though it may indicate it is up to date. <snip>


If you have devised a way to re-load the same firmware on an OM-D, please post the procedure. As far as I know it is not possible to do that. Which SUCKS and Olympus should definitely fix that problem.

But if you have done it, please post the process so I can retract my statement above.

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Jan 8, 2019 15:35:26   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
JD750 wrote:
If you have devised a way to re-load the same firmware on an OM-D, please post the procedure. As far as I know it is not possible to do that. Which SUCKS and Olympus should definitely fix that problem.

But if you have done it, please post the process so I can retract my statement above.


I will be fact checking my statement and be getting back to all. I had trouble once updating my former E-M5. It took a second attempt to get the download in and working. Of course, times change and so does software. It may not be possible now. I will find the answer and post it once I have it.

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Jan 8, 2019 23:48:41   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
wdross wrote:
I will be fact checking my statement and be getting back to all. I had trouble once updating my former E-M5. It took a second attempt to get the download in and working. Of course, times change and so does software. It may not be possible now. I will find the answer and post it once I have it.



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