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Dec 23, 2018 12:14:34   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
The same "facts" as when you unhinged progressives said Trump's words and actions towards Kim Un was going to cause a nuclear war. LOL just more of the same fear mongering BS.



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Dec 23, 2018 12:16:31   #
jcboy3
 
Twardlow wrote:
THE NATIONAL CIRCUS

GOP Leaders Won’t Tolerate Trump’s Chaos for Much Longer
By Frank Rich


Most weeks, New York Magazine writer-at-large Frank Rich speaks with contributor Alex Carp about the biggest stories in politics and culture. Today, the consequences of Trump’s erratic moves at home and abroad.

With the harsh words of Secretary of Defense James Mattis’s resignation, the unexpected withdrawal from Syria, and the about-face toward a looming government shutdown, some close to President Trump’s Washington feel like we’ve been thrown back into the chaotic early days of the administration, while others worry that “the wheels may be coming off.” Is it right to read this as the beginning of the end?

The beginning of the end of the Trump presidency came and went a long time ago. I have never wavered from my oft-stated convictions that (a) Trump will not finish out his term, and (b), the end will be triggered by a presidential meltdown that forces the Vichy Republicans in Washington to mount an insurrection — if only to save their own asses, not the country. This week was a big step toward that endgame, and surely one of the most
remarkable weeks in American history.

We have a president of the United States who is moving to shut down the government at the same moment that he is inviting America’s adversaries to breach its defenses. The withdrawals in Syria and Afghanistan, combined with the exit of the last top administration official who aspired to serve the national interest rather than Trump’s, invites hostile moves against the United States from ISIS, Russia, China, North Korea, and the Taliban. This has even grabbed the cynical Mitch McConnell’s attention: He has declared himself “distressed” by Mattis’s resignation, a major step in rhetorical escalation in a party where Susan Collins’s pathetic periodic expressions of “concern” are what pass for criticism of an outlaw president. Marco Rubio’s words were stronger, a move to protect his viability for another presidential run, but more outrage from more GOP leaders will follow. What will move them is not necessarily Trump’s hara-kiri isolationist agenda but the damage his behavior both abroad and at home is inflicting on the financial markets. The sheer uncertainty of a chaos presidency is pushing the Dow to its worst December since the Great Depression. McConnell and his humiliated departing peer Paul Ryan have tolerated Trump’s racism, misogyny, and nativism, his wreckage of American alliances, his kleptocracy, and his allegiance to Vladimir Putin. They have tolerated as well his con job on the coal miners, steelworkers, and automobile-industry workers of his base. But they’ll be damned if they will stand for a president who threatens the bottom line of the GOP donor class.

The Mattis resignation is huge. It’s not that he was the last “adult in the room” but that as a retired military man and a secretary of Defense with access to both foreign intelligence and the inner workings of the White House, he knows treason when he sees it. His resignation letter stops just short of saying that Trump is actively serving the “interests” of China and Russia as they try “to shape a world consistent with their authoritarian model.” Certainly it is extraordinary that Trump consulted with the Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan when making his abrupt move in Syria but did not bother to consult the American general, Joseph Dunford, who serves as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. For all we know, Trump also was directly or indirectly in touch with Putin, the most vocal defender of his actions.

What happens now? Surely the best fit for next secretary of Defense — one who aligns with Trump’s interests — is Erik Prince, whose security firm, then known as Blackwater, carried out a massacre of Iraqi civilians in Baghdad in 2007. Prince is Betsy DeVos’s brother, an advocate of privatizing the military, and has caught Robert Mueller’s attention for his own alleged role in Russian collusion with the Trump campaign. But I speak in jest. Prince could never get through a confirmation process now, and who knows where America will be or who will be in charge by the time we get to Mattis’s announced February departure date, more than two months from now. The country is going to be riveted by the televised testimony of lawyered-up Trump lackeys as they face the inquisitors of Nancy Pelosi’s Congress.

What we are likely to see in the meantime: further indictments of Trump family members and other close associates; a complete halt to governance in Washington whether there’s actually a government shutdown or not; new overt and covert threats to national security; a further effort by Trump to destabilize the Federal Reserve and assault its chairman; and perhaps, at last, an intervention by those Vichy Republicans, in the financial sector as well as in the capital, who see their own necks on the line.

But meanwhile, we have more than two weeks in store of watching an isolated madman rampaging through the gilded rooms of Mar-a-Lago, wreaking whatever damage he can on the country as the walls of justice continue to close in on him. Happy New Year

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You put up an interesting post. It must be hitting home, because most of the responses are just insults and name calling. Which is usual, of course, but very telling. The ability to rationalize Trump is getting harder and harder.

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Dec 23, 2018 12:18:37   #
EyeSawYou
 
jcboy3 wrote:
You put up an interesting post. It must be hitting home, because most of the responses are just insults and name calling. Which is usual, of course, but very telling. The ability to rationalize Trump is getting harder and harder.


You are conflating speaking the truth against this nonsense with rationalization of Trump.

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Dec 23, 2018 12:43:35   #
jcboy3
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
You are conflating speaking the truth against this nonsense with rationalization of Trump.


Okay. Let's see what "speaking the truth" means to you:

BEGIN QUOTE:

"LOL more nonsense from a progressive liberal nutjob "Journalist".

TDS.

What facts? You rarely ever post facts and seem to replace it with unsupported delusional opinions from unhinged Liberal progressives.

Why would I waste my precious time on any of your opinion pieces of garbage from unhinged Looney progressive liberals?

Little Tard, why do you post lib fascist socialist dem opinions that have not one iota of fact.......and you believe every word some incompetent fool writes?

Little Tard, try helping your self and have someone explain things to you.

Little tard, go in a corner and ponder until mad cow tells you it is ok.

The same "facts" as when you unhinged progressives said Trump's words and actions towards Kim Un was going to cause a nuclear war. LOL just more of the same fear mongering BS."

END QUOTE

I am most definitely NOT impressed.

However, I will continue to conflate this so-called "speaking the truth" with rationalization of Trump. They both seem so detached from rationality.

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Dec 23, 2018 13:14:43   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
The same "facts" as when you unhinged progressives said Trump's words and actions towards Kim Un was going to cause a nuclear war. LOL just more of the same fear mongering BS.


There wouldm’t be a nuclear war without trump paricipating in its beginning.

What I actually said was Kim was working trump for everything Kim wanted—and he got it, and trump got 50 boxes of bones.

Trump is truly a stupid, stupid man, as are his followers.

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Dec 23, 2018 18:10:11   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Twardlow wrote:
There wouldm’t be a nuclear war without trump paricipating in its beginning.

What I actually said was Kim was working trump for everything Kim wanted—and he got it, and trump got 50 boxes of bones.

Trump is truly a stupid, stupid man, as are his followers.


"Trump is truly a stupid, stupid man, as are his followers." Twardlow

Big Perp let a handful of shock jocks flip him on the shutdown. This is not the man we want anywhere near any important levers of power.

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Dec 26, 2018 07:36:51   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Okay. Let's see what "speaking the truth" means to you:

BEGIN QUOTE:

"LOL more nonsense from a progressive liberal nutjob "Journalist".

TDS.

What facts? You rarely ever post facts and seem to replace it with unsupported delusional opinions from unhinged Liberal progressives.

Why would I waste my precious time on any of your opinion pieces of garbage from unhinged Looney progressive liberals?

Little Tard, why do you post lib fascist socialist dem opinions that have not one iota of fact.......and you believe every word some incompetent fool writes?

Little Tard, try helping your self and have someone explain things to you.

Little tard, go in a corner and ponder until mad cow tells you it is ok.

The same "facts" as when you unhinged progressives said Trump's words and actions towards Kim Un was going to cause a nuclear war. LOL just more of the same fear mongering BS."

END QUOTE

I am most definitely NOT impressed.

However, I will continue to conflate this so-called "speaking the truth" with rationalization of Trump. They both seem so detached from rationality.
Okay. Let's see what "speaking the truth&quo... (show quote)



Little boy, I see you are still deep in your delusions. No one is impressed with your post except your brother little tard. Go talk to mad cow.

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Dec 26, 2018 07:38:26   #
Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa
 
Twardlow wrote:
There wouldm’t be a nuclear war without trump paricipating in its beginning.

What I actually said was Kim was working trump for everything Kim wanted—and he got it, and trump got 50 boxes of bones.

Trump is truly a stupid, stupid man, as are his followers.


Little tard, mental help is in order for you. Now you are talking about a nuclear war? Get a grip on reality. Take your meds.

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