Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example... Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current...

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current investigations against President Trump. Wired magazine now numbers seventeen separate lines of inquiry that at least marginally implicate the president. And we are again discussing many of the same issues. Can the president be indicted while in office? How do we treat the statute of limitations on his crimes? Has the president committed tax fraud? Has he improperly received donations and other political favors in return for official acts and changes in U.S. policy? Did the president attempt to suborn obstruction of justice by improperly trying to influence high-ranking members of the Department of Justice?

Other methods are recognizable, too. At first, the president tried to hide behind the fact that he wasn’t’ officially considered a target of the investigation. Now Trump relentlessly attacks the investigators, accusing them of leaking and of bias. He holds rallies before his loyalists, decrying his treatment.

Perhaps the ultimate solution here will be similarly recognizable. Rather than engage in a prolonged impeachment process that will humiliate congressional Republicans and put them in an impossible position, they might convince Trump that he can face a less uncertain and perilous future by copping a lenient plea in return for stepping down.

If Trump does not win reelection, he will discover that the statute of limitations has not run out on many of his crimes. Does he really want to deal with that prospect?

I suspect that the best solution for all involved here will involve a voluntary end to his presidency. He still has that bargaining power today, but it may vanish once Robert Mueller divulges what he’s learned.
In a few years, maybe Prof. Banzhaf’s students can get us some of the restitution we all deserve.

See: http://www.boomantribune.com

Titled “Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example,” with a clear exposition of Agnew’s practices.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

Twardlow wrote:

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current investigations against President Trump. Wired magazine now numbers seventeen separate lines of inquiry that at least marginally implicate the president. And we are again discussing many of the same issues. Can the president be indicted while in office? How do we treat the statute of limitations on his crimes? Has the president committed tax fraud? Has he improperly received donations and other political favors in return for official acts and changes in U.S. policy? Did the president attempt to suborn obstruction of justice by improperly trying to influence high-ranking members of the Department of Justice?

Other methods are recognizable, too. At first, the president tried to hide behind the fact that he wasn’t’ officially considered a target of the investigation. Now Trump relentlessly attacks the investigators, accusing them of leaking and of bias. He holds rallies before his loyalists, decrying his treatment.

Perhaps the ultimate solution here will be similarly recognizable. Rather than engage in a prolonged impeachment process that will humiliate congressional Republicans and put them in an impossible position, they might convince Trump that he can face a less uncertain and perilous future by copping a lenient plea in return for stepping down.

If Trump does not win reelection, he will discover that the statute of limitations has not run out on many of his crimes. Does he really want to deal with that prospect?

I suspect that the best solution for all involved here will involve a voluntary end to his presidency. He still has that bargaining power today, but it may vanish once Robert Mueller divulges what he’s learned.
In a few years, maybe Prof. Banzhaf’s students can get us some of the restitution we all deserve.

See: http://www.boomantribune.com

Titled “Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example,” with a clear exposition of Agnew’s practices.

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certa... (show quote)

Good to hear it’s only a marginal implication assumption.
Thanks you.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Twardlow wrote:

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current investigations against President Trump. Wired magazine now numbers seventeen separate lines of inquiry that at least marginally implicate the president. And we are again discussing many of the same issues. Can the president be indicted while in office? How do we treat the statute of limitations on his crimes? Has the president committed tax fraud? Has he improperly received donations and other political favors in return for official acts and changes in U.S. policy? Did the president attempt to suborn obstruction of justice by improperly trying to influence high-ranking members of the Department of Justice?

Other methods are recognizable, too. At first, the president tried to hide behind the fact that he wasn’t’ officially considered a target of the investigation. Now Trump relentlessly attacks the investigators, accusing them of leaking and of bias. He holds rallies before his loyalists, decrying his treatment.

Perhaps the ultimate solution here will be similarly recognizable. Rather than engage in a prolonged impeachment process that will humiliate congressional Republicans and put them in an impossible position, they might convince Trump that he can face a less uncertain and perilous future by copping a lenient plea in return for stepping down.

If Trump does not win reelection, he will discover that the statute of limitations has not run out on many of his crimes. Does he really want to deal with that prospect?

I suspect that the best solution for all involved here will involve a voluntary end to his presidency. He still has that bargaining power today, but it may vanish once Robert Mueller divulges what he’s learned.
In a few years, maybe Prof. Banzhaf’s students can get us some of the restitution we all deserve.

See: http://www.boomantribune.com

Titled “Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example,” with a clear exposition of Agnew’s practices.

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certa... (show quote)

I could swear you were just watching Chris Mathews.

He may not have seemed like it but Agnew had a reported IQ of 160, Trump, not so much. Trump may believe he’s so smart he doesn’t have to worry.

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Twardlow wrote:

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current investigations against President Trump. Wired magazine now numbers seventeen separate lines of inquiry that at least marginally implicate the president. And we are again discussing many of the same issues. Can the president be indicted while in office? How do we treat the statute of limitations on his crimes? Has the president committed tax fraud? Has he improperly received donations and other political favors in return for official acts and changes in U.S. policy? Did the president attempt to suborn obstruction of justice by improperly trying to influence high-ranking members of the Department of Justice?

Other methods are recognizable, too. At first, the president tried to hide behind the fact that he wasn’t’ officially considered a target of the investigation. Now Trump relentlessly attacks the investigators, accusing them of leaking and of bias. He holds rallies before his loyalists, decrying his treatment.

Perhaps the ultimate solution here will be similarly recognizable. Rather than engage in a prolonged impeachment process that will humiliate congressional Republicans and put them in an impossible position, they might convince Trump that he can face a less uncertain and perilous future by copping a lenient plea in return for stepping down.

If Trump does not win reelection, he will discover that the statute of limitations has not run out on many of his crimes. Does he really want to deal with that prospect?

I suspect that the best solution for all involved here will involve a voluntary end to his presidency. He still has that bargaining power today, but it may vanish once Robert Mueller divulges what he’s learned.
In a few years, maybe Prof. Banzhaf’s students can get us some of the restitution we all deserve.

See: http://www.boomantribune.com

Titled “Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example,” with a clear exposition of Agnew’s practices.

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certa... (show quote)

What is the point of a ridiculous post like this? There is an ongoing investigation and you are talking about something decades ago? Then you hyperventilate about the outcome? That is weird to say the least.

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Twardlow wrote:

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certainly seems to rhyme, and we can see many parallels between Agnew’s case and the current investigations against President Trump. Wired magazine now numbers seventeen separate lines of inquiry that at least marginally implicate the president. And we are again discussing many of the same issues. Can the president be indicted while in office? How do we treat the statute of limitations on his crimes? Has the president committed tax fraud? Has he improperly received donations and other political favors in return for official acts and changes in U.S. policy? Did the president attempt to suborn obstruction of justice by improperly trying to influence high-ranking members of the Department of Justice?

Other methods are recognizable, too. At first, the president tried to hide behind the fact that he wasn’t’ officially considered a target of the investigation. Now Trump relentlessly attacks the investigators, accusing them of leaking and of bias. He holds rallies before his loyalists, decrying his treatment.

Perhaps the ultimate solution here will be similarly recognizable. Rather than engage in a prolonged impeachment process that will humiliate congressional Republicans and put them in an impossible position, they might convince Trump that he can face a less uncertain and perilous future by copping a lenient plea in return for stepping down.

If Trump does not win reelection, he will discover that the statute of limitations has not run out on many of his crimes. Does he really want to deal with that prospect?

I suspect that the best solution for all involved here will involve a voluntary end to his presidency. He still has that bargaining power today, but it may vanish once Robert Mueller divulges what he’s learned.
In a few years, maybe Prof. Banzhaf’s students can get us some of the restitution we all deserve.

See: http://www.boomantribune.com

Titled “Trump Should Follow Agnew’s Example,” with a clear exposition of Agnew’s practices.

Perhaps history never repeats itself, but it certa... (show quote)

For a comprehensive and deep dive into the Agnew story, check out Rachael Maddow's seven part blog Bagman.

I know the right wing howlers will have a hissy fit over Maddow, but they should listen to the podcast before they complain. It is well researched history.

Rose42

He won't follow Agnew's example. Maybe he should listen to Maddow's podcast....

Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Elaine2025 wrote:

What is the point of a ridiculous post like this? There is an ongoing investigation and you are talking about something decades ago? Then you hyperventilate about the outcome? That is weird to say the least.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

--George Santayana (16 December 1863 in Madrid, Spain – 26 September 1952 in Rome, Italy)

Elaine2025 Loc: Seattle, Wa

Bazbo wrote:

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

--George Santayana (16 December 1863 in Madrid, Spain – 26 September 1952 in Rome, Italy)

Baz, I am not saying forget history, but I cannot understand a post like this. It has not relevance or meaning.