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Nov 17, 2018 11:47:30   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
OP's experience must be multiplied by many hundreds if not thousands and should give cause to 'is there even an altenative' to pursue. Most people purchase insurance from some local agent - what happens when your local agent's office and all its files get destroyed as well as your paper policy. How do you prove you had insurance?

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Nov 17, 2018 11:52:16   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
On the subject of your computer file archive:

There have been many threads on that subject. A frequent comment is that some people just don't want to trust their files to the cloud. I can understand being reluctant to hand over your data to unknown people and trust them to keep it safe, but you need to be sure there will be a copy somewhere. The hard drives with your archives you keep at home may not be safe. Those hard drives you keep at a neighbor's place may not be safe. Those that you put in a safe deposit at your local bank may not be safe, particularly when the whole town burns.

The cloud storage is (in my opinion) really inconvenient. It costs an annual fee in many cases and it's much cheaper in the long run to buy an external hard drive. But the cloud storage is distributed and maintained by professionals. It's there as a last resort, not somewhere to recover your files when you accidentally delete some of them.

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Nov 17, 2018 12:12:12   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
On the subject of your computer file archive:

There have been many threads on that subject. A frequent comment is that some people just don't want to trust their files to the cloud. I can understand being reluctant to hand over your data to unknown people and trust them to keep it safe, but you need to be sure there will be a copy somewhere. The hard drives with your archives you keep at home may not be safe. Those hard drives you keep at a neighbor's place may not be safe. Those that you put in a safe deposit at your local bank may not be safe, particularly when the whole town burns.

The cloud storage is (in my opinion) really inconvenient. It costs an annual fee in many cases and it's much cheaper in the long run to buy an external hard drive. But the cloud storage is distributed and maintained by professionals. It's there as a last resort, not somewhere to recover your files when you accidentally delete some of them.
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Nov 17, 2018 12:12:50   #
skylinefirepest Loc: Southern Pines, N.C.
 
As one of the few firemen around our area that has lost a home I fully sympathize with you. Losing a home is a traumatic experience and, as you say, there are things that can never be replaced! We do celebrate the lives saved as "stuff" can be replaced eventually...truth be known most of us with a loss like yours would live a simpler life and not collect so much "stuff". I am sorry for your loss.

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Nov 17, 2018 19:22:08   #
kdogg Loc: Gallipolis Ferry WV
 
First and foremost I am glad to hear that you and your family are safe. Also I am sorry for your lost. Taking the time to talk the UHH community and give us a warning (that we should all heed) while what must be the most trying time in your life is FIRST CLASS. My prayers are with you and your family.
L

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Nov 17, 2018 21:56:39   #
DougS Loc: Central Arkansas
 
As I have experienced a partial house burn, I can recommend to EVERYONE: make a video/photo recording of EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOME! NOW!!! Open every drawer, every closet, wall, shelf, room, and store off site in multiple locations! Or at least in a VERY fire proof location. You have to 'prove' you had possession of every toothpick in the house. After our fire, the attic collapsed into our garage, with a pile of old comic books. On the top was an old 12 cent one that sold for $75 on ebay. I(!) had to research EVERY ITEM (700+ items) (a royal pain!), to get the current value for the insurance company for replacement. Then they prorate a portion of each item, and as you replace it they will reimburse you the full cost of replacement, (you periodically submit replaced items costs). You have 2 years to replace everything. And after your time is up, you will remember something you missed in your inventory, for years to come... It will completely consume 2 full years of your life to TRY to replace what you lost. I missed about the goal by about $8,000, but did OK. Hope and pray we NEVER go thru that again!!! We had State Farm Ins, and I would recommend them to anyone, based on our experience. God bless those going thru a total loss, and particularly the loss of life.

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Nov 17, 2018 23:19:37   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
skylinefirepest wrote:
As one of the few firemen around our area that has lost a home I fully sympathize with you. Losing a home is a traumatic experience and, as you say, there are things that can never be replaced! We do celebrate the lives saved as "stuff" can be replaced eventually...truth be known most of us with a loss like yours would live a simpler life and not collect so much "stuff". I am sorry for your loss.


skylinefirepest,

Due to the lack of available cash, and the time and money it will take to rebuild, my life will be simpler without as much "Stuff" My sincere hope is that I'll be able to get back into photography again someday soon. At 64yrs old, I though the gear I had would last me a lifetime. I Already miss my Nikon gear. Hopefully by the time I can afford to replace some of it, I'll probably be too senile to become proficient with it again.

-Gary

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Nov 17, 2018 23:22:54   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
kdogg wrote:
First and foremost I am glad to hear that you and your family are safe. Also I am sorry for your lost. Taking the time to talk the UHH community and give us a warning (that we should all heed) while what must be the most trying time in your life is FIRST CLASS. My prayers are with you and your family.
L


kdogg,

Thank you for the prayers & your concern for our loss. I keep telling myself what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I'm going to be the incredible hulk when this is all over I think. lol

-Gary

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Nov 17, 2018 23:28:59   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
DougS wrote:
As I have experienced a partial house burn, I can recommend to EVERYONE: make a video/photo recording of EVERYTHING IN YOUR HOME! NOW!!! Open every drawer, every closet, wall, shelf, room, and store off site in multiple locations! Or at least in a VERY fire proof location. You have to 'prove' you had possession of every toothpick in the house. After our fire, the attic collapsed into our garage, with a pile of old comic books. On the top was an old 12 cent one that sold for $75 on ebay. I(!) had to research EVERY ITEM (700+ items) (a royal pain!), to get the current value for the insurance company for replacement. Then they prorate a portion of each item, and as you replace it they will reimburse you the full cost of replacement, (you periodically submit replaced items costs). You have 2 years to replace everything. And after your time is up, you will remember something you missed in your inventory, for years to come... It will completely consume 2 full years of your life to TRY to replace what you lost. I missed about the goal by about $8,000, but did OK. Hope and pray we NEVER go thru that again!!! We had State Farm Ins, and I would recommend them to anyone, based on our experience. God bless those going thru a total loss, and particularly the loss of life.
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DougS,

I think your experience is probably correct on a smaller scale. From what I'm hearing from others with perhaps more responsive insurance companies than mine (like Travelers & State Farm) Most companies have been paying the limits of the policy. There just isn't enough adjusters or even access to the burned area for someone to handle each loss on a case by case basis. Even if my company (Aegis) does the same, it may be years before the area is cleared and safe to rebuild.

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Nov 18, 2018 11:36:17   #
catgirl Loc: las vegas
 
Magaliaman wrote:
Okay, this is NOT meant as a "woe is me" story. But our family has recently been impacted by the California "Camp Fire". Everything is lost and most of what used to be our town lays in ashes. It might be weeks before we can even go visit the pile of ashes we used to call home. And it may be YEARS before the town returns to some state of normalcy again. The good news is myself and my family escaped the blaze with the clothes on our backs, and not much more. Thank goodness to all the generous people like the Elks club that somehow had clothing and personal items including blankets to get us thru the 1st couple of cold nights.

I guess the wisdom of 20/20 hindsight, and what I wish to impart on all the hogs here is to at LEAST review your current insurance coverage. Increase it much more than you think you might ever need. The limits I had on my policy will never cover the replacement value of my worldly possessions. Every evening when I try to sleep, I review all the things that need to be done to get thru the next day. My mind drifts off to things that I have lost and may likely never recover. I'm not only talking about my camera gear (cries) but every picture I've ever taken stored on my NAS drive at home, every tool in my toolbox, the 4 Einstein Flash units and countless accessories including my D810, D7100, GoPRO, and SX50-HS......and the lenses (Cries harder). Even worse are the sentimental items I cant replace such as my Fathers Rings and watches. Wow, the list goes On and On. My point is: Take stock of what you own. Consider if it were all taken away in the middle of the day, and all you had was your cell phone and the clothes on your back. Do you have the coverage you THINK you have? Can you even access your bank accounts if your computer was destroyed and your list of usernames and passwords kept in the drawer were also gone.

We all get complacent, and think it'll never happen to me. Wake up. it does occasionally happen.

Once again, this isn't meant as a "woe is me" rant, but think of how your life can be turned upside down in a moments notice. Especially when you get a little older and closer to retirement.
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So sorry to hear of your terrible ordeal and very happy you made it out safely my prayers are with you and all the people of the town

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Nov 18, 2018 20:42:40   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
catgirl wrote:
So sorry to hear of your terrible ordeal and very happy you made it out safely my prayers are with you and all the people of the town


catgirl,

Thank you for your concern and your prayers, they're much appreciated. Theres a lot of people worse off an I am. Things aren't great for me, but when I drive past Walmart and see the hundreds of people sleeping in tents, I consider myself EXTREMELY fortunate.

-Gary

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Nov 19, 2018 16:01:07   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
So, so sorry!!!

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Nov 20, 2018 00:16:01   #
Magaliaman Loc: Magalia, CA
 
raymondh wrote:
So, so sorry!!!


Thank you raymondh. We appreciate it.

-Gary

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Nov 24, 2018 17:42:33   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
John_F wrote:
OP's experience must be multiplied by many hundreds if not thousands and should give cause to 'is there even an altenative' to pursue. Most people purchase insurance from some local agent - what happens when your local agent's office and all its files get destroyed as well as your paper policy. How do you prove you had insurance?


Having sold Homeowners insurance for 34 years I can assure you that every major carrier has an electronic file for every client. One problem that comes up way too often is lack of coverage for “special” coverages needed by the client- i.e -cameras and jewelry. These are riders added to the policy that provide “open peril” coverage on a per item basis usually with no deductible. When we do protection reviews most clients just do not share this info with the agent maybe because it raises the cost or they just don’t want to provide the documentation. The insurance company cannot provide this special coverage if the client does not share this info. This coverage is a bargain for the client. My heart goes out to everyone who tragically lost family and property.

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