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Oct 29, 2018 20:35:01   #
RickTaylor
 
shelty wrote:
I wouldn't have a ford even if you gave me one. I owned two new fords and both were crap.

Are you talking about your Model T and your Model A ?

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Oct 29, 2018 21:00:13   #
RickTaylor
 
brontodon wrote:
My sister's Windstar waited until just after the warranty expired for its transmission to go.

Are we in the twilight zone? The last Windstar was built in 2003. General motors was building garbage runs then as well. Remember the Chevy Astro that was a real engineering marvel

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Oct 29, 2018 21:31:59   #
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rcdovala wrote:

..... reason that you see so many Nikon images from
outer space is that NASA purchased 50 Nikon ......




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Oct 29, 2018 22:05:25   #
foxfirerodandgun Loc: Stony Creek, VA
 
DaveO wrote:
First On Race Day.


In VA, Richmond is the state capital so................................wait for it.....................................

Found On Richmond Dump.

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Oct 29, 2018 22:41:02   #
tomcat
 
I am truly amazed that you guys have totally missed the mark on Canon vs Nikon cameras at sporting events. It has nothing to do with the photographer's desires---00000.000----nothing----nada----. But what it has to do with is the photographer's employer's choice. Have you never thought about the fact that the photographers are using what their bosses buy for them to use? Very few of these photographers can purchase a 500-600 mm lens and if they can, then they are definitely making more than minimum wage. NOPE--these guys are going to the stock room and grabbing a lens from the boss. And where is this equipment coming from? With the magazine and newspaper subscriptions dropping these days, cost cutting is always on the agenda. So Canon right now is beating Nikon on price and subsequently getting the contracts. Purchase bids have nothing to do with quality, but everything with price and cost. (Remember the film days and grainy 800 speed film? Obviously, the print media is not concerned with the quality of the images)

It should also be common sense to you that when you see the sharpness and clarity of Nikon photos pasted on this website of birds in flight that Nikon has a great lens and in many ways superior sharpness at high iso's.

I had a good friend that worked for the local big city newspaper and when I would run into him at the high school football games he was always cursing his boss because he gave him Canon s$%#^t to shoot with (his words). He drooled over my low-light images (again with the D3s) and on one occasion I let him stick his card in my camera to snap a couple for himself, to compare. So what you are witnessing on the sports field is the lowest bidder, not the best equipment. Think about this a while and use your noodle. The company that can sell and keep the stock room filled with camera equipment is the one that wins the contract. I had a Navy pilot friend who lamented that every time he flew, he always told himself that he was flying equipment from the lowest bidder.

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Oct 30, 2018 00:39:34   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
[quote=RickTaylor][quote=letmedance]Made in Mexico by workers that earn very little compared to American workers. I have never owned a Ford that did not nickel and dime me to death.[/quote
Must have been used and 30 years ago. When GM was going belly up and Chrysler wasn’t far behind it was we the taxpayers that bailed them out only to have their Exeutives take huge bonuses and never pay a dime back to the government. It was piss poor management and lackluster products that got them into the mess in the first place. Hats off to Ford for turning their products around and with their own money. Not ours![/quote]

You are wrong. Not only did General Motors pay the government back, they paid interest and the paid off the loan early.

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Oct 30, 2018 01:17:53   #
Sarah L
 
In film days, I primarily used Canon. When I went digital, I liked the way the Nikon felt in my hands & seemed better made. Just my personal taste! I’ve won awards, had work published. I’ve had many admire my photographic art, but no one has ever hired me due to what gear I own. I could care less what oven an awesome cook uses, I’m interested in the end process & how yummy it is! Each to his own!

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Oct 30, 2018 08:58:17   #
RickTaylor
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
You are wrong. Not only did General Motors pay the government back, they paid interest and the paid off the loan early.


You need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid that the previous administration served. It is far from clear how GM and the Obama administration could honestly say, much less trumpet in prime time television ads, that GM repaid its TARP loans in any meaningful way. The reality is that GM got additional TARP billions from a Treasury escrow account filled with taxpayer dollars. Taxpayers have not been paid back “in full” and are still on the hook for the TARP stock investment in GM. Whether taxpayer funds are ultimately recovered depends upon the administration’s ability to sell GM stock at a profit some day. Of course, we all hope it works out that way, and it might. But, the American people deserve more than puffed-up press releases and misleading commercials claiming that GM paid its loans back to the government with money it earned. I recognize that one of the goals of the GM ad campaign is to build trust, but GM did it all wrong, apparently with some help from the administration. Shifting bailout money from GM debt to GM stock is not the same as repaying it. Stock is riskier than debt. Maybe it’s a good idea. Maybe it’s a step in the right direction, maybe not. Only time will tell. But, they should be clear with the American people about what happened here.

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Oct 30, 2018 09:55:22   #
Arubalou
 
Fotomacher wrote:
Canon spends a LOT of money on their marketing. Nikon spends a REAL LOT on their technology.

👍😊

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Oct 30, 2018 10:29:32   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Could be because Nikon pumps out more new gear faster than Canon, you know, like Sony but not to the extreme Sony does. There are lots of people who simply must have the absolute latest so as soon as something new is introduced, they buy the new and sell their old. Could be simply because there are more Nikon users on this web site. Who knows, but I personally don't find it interesting.


Language is important. Nikon may push out more new models. But sales records indicate Canon still pushes out more volume of the limited new gear they introduce.

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Oct 30, 2018 11:08:05   #
qrpnut Loc: Brattleboro, Vt.
 
Did you know... Lee Iococca came up with I-O-C-O-C-C-A = "I Am Chairman Of Chrysler Corporation America"

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Oct 30, 2018 12:01:08   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
tomcat wrote:
I am truly amazed that you guys have totally missed the mark on Canon vs Nikon cameras at sporting events. It has nothing to do with the photographer's desires---00000.000----nothing----nada----. But what it has to do with is the photographer's employer's choice. Have you never thought about the fact that the photographers are using what their bosses buy for them to use? Very few of these photographers can purchase a 500-600 mm lens and if they can, then they are definitely making more than minimum wage. NOPE--these guys are going to the stock room and grabbing a lens from the boss. And where is this equipment coming from? With the magazine and newspaper subscriptions dropping these days, cost cutting is always on the agenda. So Canon right now is beating Nikon on price and subsequently getting the contracts. Purchase bids have nothing to do with quality, but everything with price and cost. (Remember the film days and grainy 800 speed film? Obviously, the print media is not concerned with the quality of the images)

It should also be common sense to you that when you see the sharpness and clarity of Nikon photos pasted on this website of birds in flight that Nikon has a great lens and in many ways superior sharpness at high iso's.

I had a good friend that worked for the local big city newspaper and when I would run into him at the high school football games he was always cursing his boss because he gave him Canon s$%#^t to shoot with (his words). He drooled over my low-light images (again with the D3s) and on one occasion I let him stick his card in my camera to snap a couple for himself, to compare. So what you are witnessing on the sports field is the lowest bidder, not the best equipment. Think about this a while and use your noodle. The company that can sell and keep the stock room filled with camera equipment is the one that wins the contract. I had a Navy pilot friend who lamented that every time he flew, he always told himself that he was flying equipment from the lowest bidder.
I am truly amazed that you guys have totally misse... (show quote)


Sounds like a Nikon fan boy to me.
I personally own both Canon and Nikon and quite frankly I really don't find one to be really any better than the other. I find Canon to have better ergonomics and easier menus to follow, and a slightly more realistic lens selection including fewer redundant focal length and less alphabet soup lens designations.
Contrary to popular belief, military aircraft are not always built by the lowest bidder. Although I do believe it was one of the Walters that said, when asked how he felt, how would you feel sitting atop a 300 foot roman candle built by the lowest bidder.

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Oct 30, 2018 12:07:26   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
Sounds like a Nikon fan boy to me.
I personally own both Canon and Nikon and quite frankly I really don't find one to be really any better than the other. I find Canon to have better ergonomics and easier menus to follow, and a slightly more realistic lens selection including fewer redundant focal length and less alphabet soup lens designations.
Contrary to popular belief, military aircraft are not always built by the lowest bidder. Although I do believe it was one of the Walters that said, when asked how he felt, how would you feel sitting atop a 300 foot roman candle built by the lowest bidder.
Sounds like a Nikon fan boy to me. br I personally... (show quote)


It is frequently not a problem of lowest bidder. One it is supposed to be lowest RESPONSIBLE bidder. And two, who is writing the specs? Bad specs result in bad bids and bad results.

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Oct 30, 2018 12:36:24   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
dsmeltz wrote:
It is frequently not a problem of lowest bidder. One it is supposed to be lowest RESPONSIBLE bidder. And two, who is writing the specs? Bad specs result in bad bids and bad results.


As I said, not always the lowest bidder.

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Oct 30, 2018 13:19:19   #
tomcat
 
rmorrison1116 wrote:
As I said, not always the lowest bidder.


In the case of photography equipment, it usually is the lowest bidder. There's not a nickel's worth of quality between the 4 major brands, as all of them will produce images good enough for publication. The reason I stayed with Nikon is because that's what I started with and at my age, I'm too confused to switch OS and learn another set of menus. I tried a Sony and an Oly a couple of years back and traded them. I lost too many shots trying to reset some control that a straying finger moved. Plus, the Nikon D3s is still the best of the Nikons (and Canons) at low-light captures. If I was employed, I might consider a change, but not now.

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