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Oct 16, 2018 10:50:44   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks..
GED wrote:
Listen to this mans advice and you will see the greatest improvement in your photography. Renting a lens to try it in the field is a wise choice, purchase the best lens and camera that your budget will allow and that is best suited to what you are photographing. Make sure you have a gimbal head and solid tripod. Many people use top of the line equipment and produce low quality work because they do not practice the suggestions of martinfisher. The easy part of being a natural history photographer is buying equipment, then the work begins transporting and setting up blinds so you are in position when the light is right, learning where to find your subjects and if your shooting birds learn when to shoot so they have best plumage, if your shooting orchids learn where to find them and when they bloom then be ready to shoot them when most of the buds are open but before the insects start to eat them or the first blooms start to deteriorate. There is often a very narrow window of time to get the shots you want, learn to be proficient with the equipment you have. I have seen many folks always changing equipment for the latest greatest thing on the market and they never learn to master what they are shooting with and miss many opportunities. Martinfisher has given you very good advice in telling you to learn how to get close to your subjects. I wish you the very best in achieving your goals.
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Oct 16, 2018 10:53:22   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
To be honest I don't know. I guess I wanted reassurance that I haven't made a mistake to purchase a DSLR instead of mirrorless.
leftj wrote:
If you are happy with your D7500 why are you even fretting about mirrorless?

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Oct 16, 2018 10:55:24   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
I have looked at the Nikon lens but it is even heavier than the Tamron. I did a lot of research on the Tamron and the reviews/comments were excellent.
The Tamron seems to be the lightest in weight.
billnikon wrote:
The only mistake you made was renting a Tamron. But that will be OK because you just rented it. When you go to buy, do not make another mistake. Buy the Nikon 200-500 mm f5.6. It is faster at 500 than the Tamron, it is better built than the Tamron, it is a better value than the Tamron, it will stay in specs much much longer than the Tamron, and it two years it will be worth much more on trade or sale than the Tamron. And, you will get better images with the Nikon vs. the Tamron. So, to sum up, don't make a mistake, buy the Nikon 200-500. But, don't just take my word, read the reviews on the Nikon. Folks love it.
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Oct 16, 2018 10:55:58   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
I know this wasn’t your question but I suggest you try using a monopod for that application.

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Oct 16, 2018 10:56:39   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks for all the links Jerry...will certainly go through them all. Grace

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Oct 16, 2018 10:58:50   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks. The more I research the more I'm hearing very good comments about the G2. Also from all the zoom lenses I looked at, this seems to be the lightest in weight.
Gene51 wrote:
I forgot to mention - the Tamron G2 is a pretty phenomenal lens. It is every bit as sharp as my NIkkor 600mmF4 and while not as fast (F6.3 vs F4) the pictures I have seen are indistinguishable from those taken with the big lens. And it is light enough to be able to hand hold it (4.5 lbs), has weather and dust sealing, includes an Arca-Swiss compatible tripod foot, etc. I own a Sigma Sport 150-600, and it is comparable to the Tamron at 600mm, but the Tamron is better at shorter focal lengths. If I were to do it again tomorrow, I would likely get the Tamron. I considered the Nikon 200-500mm 2 yrs ago when I got the Sigma but found it to be good but not quite as sharp as the Sigma, and the build quality was just ok - and no weather/dust sealing. At a similar price point to the G2, there is no reason to select a lens with less going for it compared to the competition. I shoot Nikon almost exclusively (also use a Sony RX10M4).
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Oct 16, 2018 11:00:11   #
rcarol
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Let me preface this by saying I have every intention of going mirrorless.... someday. But right now the demands of BIF are better served with tech in DSLRs. The only advantage to mirrorless right now is with the ESO R that has AF to f/11, but that camera has enough other problems

Have you gotten a gimbal head? That would be more useful than going mirrorless.


You do mean the EOS R, don't you? What problems are you referring to? Please enlighten me.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:02:03   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks. This lens would definitely be a consideration if the Tamron is a no no. It's lighter than the Tamron...
Brucej67 wrote:
In my humble opinion the 150-600mm lens might be a bit to much, remember you are holding a lens that you will have to track the bird in flight with at 4.38 LB so at 600mm it will be difficult to swing and keep the bird in the group auto-focus, you would probably be shooting at 400mm for that, though the Nikon 80-400mm weight is approximately the same however the barrel length is much shorter and easier to swing. I use the 80-400mm myself and find it better than my Sigma 150-600mm.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:03:36   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Country Boy wrote:
If you are truly happy with your new camera, stop looking around and enjoy what you have. You can't take back the decision regardless of what anyone tells you. That said, I think most agree you made a great choice in the D7500 and should be pleased!



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Oct 16, 2018 11:05:53   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks. I know what the lens can do as got a couple of people from the camera club who've got it....I just want to see if I can copy with carrying it around for hours. If I do decide to get it, then a gimbal would be on my shopping list.
RRS wrote:
I don't know how you have been shooting but I would suggest you rent or borrow a Gimbal Head and a sturdy tripod to try out the lens that you are renting. If you are shooting free hand you may not get a true representation of what that lens can do. Shoot what you have until you outgrow it. If you really like the G2 then spend your money on the lens.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:07:25   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks Steve, you've given me another lens to consider if the G2 proves to be too heavy.
SteveR wrote:
Grace....I recently bought my daughter a D7500 and the weight is perfect for her compared to larger cameras like the D800 or even the D500 would have been. Combined with the comparatively lightweigh Tamron 100-400mm lens, she has a perfect combination for shooting soccer games. The new lens you have coming in might be a bit heavy, the the D7500 shouldn't give you any problem. If nothing else, try a monopod to help support the weight and is easily maneuverable.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:10:07   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
I just ordered a Sony A9 with their 100-400 with a 1.4x extender. I fell for the hype. In part because of the weight. I have used Canon gear for quite some time (1DX, 5DIV and L lenses from 24 to 600) with IMO pretty good results. But hopefully I will be doing some traveling in the next several years, sometimes in relatively small airplanes. I never want to allow my gear out of my sight. I had to do that last summer because I was not allowed to carry my think-tank roller bag on the airplane. I was scared to death having someone else manage my gear (stories abound). Hopefully with my Sony gear I will be able to get it all in one relatively small bag that will be relatively light.

I shoot birds, some slow, some fast. My biggest issue (besides weight) is focus especially with small fast birds. From what I have read and seen, the Canon gear cannot keep up with the Sony focusing system. From my perspective, if a subject is not in focus, it's not an successful Image. Granted the Canon's did well with relatively large and slow moving subjects but not so well with small fast subjects. I am hopeful the Sony will put out for me. But I am not letting my Canon gear go until I'm convinced.

Granted wildlife photography represents a small niche of photography and hopefully the Sony A9 will fill that niche better than the Canon gear. But for general photography like landscapes, my 5DIV and short lenses will most likely remain a part of my gear.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:10:34   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks...my current lens is 18-300 and not that good for BIF. The new Nikon 500m has very good reviews but it's a prime lens (and out of my budget).
suntouched wrote:
You always wonder but in this case enjoy the D7500 and look at the Nikon AF-P lenses: 300 mm f4 and the new 500 mm f 5.6 and forget the gimbal head. There is already positive consumer feedback on the new 500 mm lens and it weighs out about 2 1/2 pounds compared to the Tamron 150-600 mm which is double that weight. You can add a teleconverter to either of the lens with no appreciable weight gain. If you decide later that you really, really, really wished you had gone mirrorless you can then buy an adapter for either of these lenses to use on the Nikon mirrorless. The D7500 is a good camera for birding and of reasonable size and weight.
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Oct 16, 2018 11:11:22   #
Pixtaker
 
You might consider the new lens out by Nikon. The AF-S NIKKOR 500mm f/5.6E PF ED VR, a Fixed Focal Length Super-Telephoto Lens as it is very small for a 500mm lens. I have read good things about it. Remember your lenses are your long term investment. Quality glass you will keep and the camera body will be what you will update from time to time. Another option, although bigger and heavier but cheaper would be the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 200-500mm f/5.6E ED VR Lens. It is similar in price to the Tamron and is a very sharp lens.

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Oct 16, 2018 11:12:02   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Thanks. Well I will know by Friday!!!!!
saxman71 wrote:
I don't know how much weight you can hold steady, but this should be a great camera/lens combination if you can handle the combined weight of the two. And there's really only one way to find out. One day of packing around that combination should be enough for you to ascertain if it will work for you. Renting the lens at the beginning is a smart way to go in my opinion.

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