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Oct 16, 2018 06:44:09 #
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
Look at Sony for an example of hype.
Their 70-200mm f2.8 is as big and heavy or more so as Canon or Nikon.
Physics says that a lens of a length and aperture will be what it is regardless of the body.
M4/3 get away with supposedly smaller lenses by using the crop factor. A 200mm lens when used looks like a 400mm lens. Thus it appears to be smaller. But your FF lenses I believe have reached their limits without some technical breakthrough.
So it is myth and hype.
Oct 16, 2018 07:12:45 #
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
Not necessarily. I own 2 x mirrorless cameras but it doesn't mean I regard them as better than the DSLR's I have owned, they are just better for me. Most lenses made for mirrorless cameras are lighter than their DSLR counterparts, but there are some really good lightweight wildlife lenses for DSLR's. You could try and find a second hand Nikkor 300mm f4 PF ED VR + Nikkor TC14EIII. I used mine on a D500 and it made for a superb wildlife set up, especially for birds in flight. Incredibly lightweight whilst providing excellent quality images. If you waited for the Nikon Z6 mirrorless camera, you would discover that the Nikon S series lens roadmap does not include a long telephoto/zoom.
Oct 16, 2018 07:22:10 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
If you are happy with your D7500 why are you even fretting about mirrorless?
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Oct 16, 2018 07:30:49 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
The only mistake you made was renting a Tamron. But that will be OK because you just rented it. When you go to buy, do not make another mistake. Buy the Nikon 200-500 mm f5.6. It is faster at 500 than the Tamron, it is better built than the Tamron, it is a better value than the Tamron, it will stay in specs much much longer than the Tamron, and it two years it will be worth much more on trade or sale than the Tamron. And, you will get better images with the Nikon vs. the Tamron. So, to sum up, don't make a mistake, buy the Nikon 200-500. But, don't just take my word, read the reviews on the Nikon. Folks love it.
Oct 16, 2018 07:38:39 #
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
Unless mirrorless will give me demonstrably better images, I'm sticking with my DSLRs. Saving a pound and a few inches won't win me over.
Get a good strap setup. You can't go wrong with OP/TECH. A monopod is easy to carry and helps to bear the weight and steady the camera.
Lens comparisons -
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=15236
http://www.kruger-2-kalahari.com/tamron-vs-sigma-150-600.html
http://photo.net/equipment/150-600_lenses
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/articles/tamron-vs-sigma-150-600mm-the-7-key-differences-48183
https://photographylife.com/nikon-200-500mm-vs-tamron-150-600mm-vs-sigma-150-600mm-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLXocpM5xno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_msTFAmwWY
And -
https://photographylife.com/nikon-200-500mm-vs-tamron-150-600mm-vs-sigma-150-600mm-c/1
http://www.davemclelland.com/nikon-200-500-vs-tamron-150-600-lens-comparison/
http://www.davemclelland.com/nikon-200-500-vs-tamron-150-600-lens-comparison/
http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/296-tamron-af-200-500mm-f5-63-di-ld-if-sp-lab-test-report--review
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_200_500.html
http://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/tamron/200-500mm-f5-6.3-di-ld-if-sp-af/review/
Oct 16, 2018 07:49:27 #
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
I forgot to mention - the Tamron G2 is a pretty phenomenal lens. It is every bit as sharp as my NIkkor 600mmF4 and while not as fast (F6.3 vs F4) the pictures I have seen are indistinguishable from those taken with the big lens. And it is light enough to be able to hand hold it (4.5 lbs), has weather and dust sealing, includes an Arca-Swiss compatible tripod foot, etc. I own a Sigma Sport 150-600, and it is comparable to the Tamron at 600mm, but the Tamron is better at shorter focal lengths. If I were to do it again tomorrow, I would likely get the Tamron. I considered the Nikon 200-500mm 2 yrs ago when I got the Sigma but found it to be good but not quite as sharp as the Sigma, and the build quality was just ok - and no weather/dust sealing. At a similar price point to the G2, there is no reason to select a lens with less going for it compared to the competition. I shoot Nikon almost exclusively (also use a Sony RX10M4).
Oct 16, 2018 07:50:45 #
mizzee
Loc: Boston,Ma
Yes mirrorless lenses are heavy compared to other mirrorless lenses, but much less heavy than DSLR equivalents. We’re I you, I’d stick with what you have
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Oct 16, 2018 08:07:58 #
In my humble opinion the 150-600mm lens might be a bit to much, remember you are holding a lens that you will have to track the bird in flight with at 4.38 LB so at 600mm it will be difficult to swing and keep the bird in the group auto-focus, you would probably be shooting at 400mm for that, though the Nikon 80-400mm weight is approximately the same however the barrel length is much shorter and easier to swing. I use the 80-400mm myself and find it better than my Sigma 150-600mm.
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
Oct 16, 2018 08:11:57 #
This reminds me of the time I was shooting trap. If the scores fell I would buy or trade for a new gun. I failed to learn the basics and would fall into that same trap again.
Learn with the camera you have and when you have mastered the skills you need look at a newer camera.
Learn with the camera you have and when you have mastered the skills you need look at a newer camera.
Oct 16, 2018 08:16:38 #
Wingpilot wrote:
You're good with the D7500. I think, having had both kinds of cameras, that by the time you add a heavy lens to a mirrorless camera, the weight difference between that and a DSLR probably won't be that noticeable. It'll just be heavy. An even less difference would be if you went full frame. Any way you look at it, the big lenses are all heavy, and often heavier than the camera body.
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Oct 16, 2018 08:24:10 #
rpavich wrote:
Shoot what you have. Forget spending more money.
The grass is always greener on someone else lawn. You will always wish for different gear than what you have...don't spend the money. Be happy, shoot, shoot, shoot.
The grass is always greener on someone else lawn. You will always wish for different gear than what you have...don't spend the money. Be happy, shoot, shoot, shoot.
Ditto!
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Oct 16, 2018 08:28:55 #
You can't go wrong with Nikon. I use a raft of Nikons as well as a Fuji mirrorless and each has it's strengths and weaknesses. My goto camera is always one of the Nikons.
Oct 16, 2018 09:02:59 #
If you are truly happy with your new camera, stop looking around and enjoy what you have. You can't take back the decision regardless of what anyone tells you. That said, I think most agree you made a great choice in the D7500 and should be pleased!
Oct 16, 2018 09:06:15 #
Largobob wrote:
I disagree. The lens weight is MOSTLY due to weight of glass and quality of construction.....the larger the aperture, the larger the glass and the heavier the lens. I took out my old Nikon F2s and Nikkormat yesterday....they are both small and lightweight compared with my D810.....and all have full frame equivalents. Yes, image format CAN and will affect the size and weight of a lens....but not nearly as much as the maximum aperture.
We have no disagreement Largebob. I completely agree that FOR A GIVEN FORMAT (and FL), max aperture is a major determinate of weight/size. My point was that FOR A GIVEN FL and APERTURE, Format is the primary determinate. If you’ll look back on page two, I made exactly this point at length when another poster tried to compare the weight of a 24-70 f4 Sony lens to a 24-70 f2.8 to demonstrate that mirrorless meant lighter lenses. Please go back and read my previous post. (Sorry to shout, unable to get bold type or underline to work)
Oct 16, 2018 09:27:46 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
Grace98 wrote:
A few months ago I upgraded my Nikon 3300 to the D... (show quote)
I don't know how you have been shooting but I would suggest you rent or borrow a Gimbal Head and a sturdy tripod to try out the lens that you are renting. If you are shooting free hand you may not get a true representation of what that lens can do. Shoot what you have until you outgrow it. If you really like the G2 then spend your money on the lens.
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