Panasonic FF confirmation ? Any confirmation or new rumors of the SUPPOSED Panasonic FF... ? Rumor mills are overflowing ... Any thoughts on how this might affect the other players if...

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

Any confirmation or new rumors of the SUPPOSED Panasonic FF... ? Rumor mills are overflowing ... Any thoughts on how this might affect the other players if confirmed ?

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

MrBob wrote:

Any confirmation or new rumors of the SUPPOSED Panasonic FF... ? Rumor mills are overflowing ... Any thoughts on how this might affect the other players if confirmed ?

Only the 25th will truly tell.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

MrBob wrote:

Any confirmation or new rumors of the SUPPOSED Panasonic FF... ? Rumor mills are overflowing ... Any thoughts on how this might affect the other players if confirmed ?

Just wait a few days. It will likely be just an announcement.

wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado

MrBob wrote:

Any confirmation or new rumors of the SUPPOSED Panasonic FF... ? Rumor mills are overflowing ... Any thoughts on how this might affect the other players if confirmed ?

99.9% confirmed. They will go with a common mount between Leica, Panasonic, and Sigma. It will be based off of the Leica SL mount if the rumors are correct. I think it could ultimately affect the sales for Canon, Nikon, and Sony, but whether very slightly or much more is an unknown.

BJW

wdross wrote:

99.9% confirmed. They will go with a common mount between Leica, Panasonic, and Sigma. It will be based off of the Leica SL mount if the rumors are correct. I think it could ultimately affect the sales for Canon, Nikon, and Sony, but whether very slightly or much more is an unknown.

Does this mean that they are cutting Olympus out of the partnership they have with Panasonic/Lumix and Leica MFT lenses?

gwilliams6

BJW wrote:

Does this mean that they are cutting Olympus out of the partnership they have with Panasonic/Lumix and Leica MFT lenses?

Likely the FF lenses will also fit the micro 4/3rds. There is talk of a work-around for that. IMHO this will be an awesome fusion (stills-video) camera. Panasonic really knows how to do video, as well as this being a great stills camera. IMHO I think this camera will be better competition for Sony than either Nikon or Canon. Cheers

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

Why people keep on calling the M43 system "cropped" is beyond me. If using the default 4:3 ratio those cameras are using the whole sensor. Isn't that full frame?
Now, if Olympus and Panasonic are planning on a sensor the size of a film negative then we users of those cameras have a problem because I do not believe we are going to be able to use our old lenses with the new bodies.

NCMtnMan Loc: N. Fork New River, Ashe Co., NC

camerapapi wrote:

Why people keep on calling the M43 system "cropped" is beyond me. If using the default 4:3 ratio those cameras are using the whole sensor. Isn't that full frame?
Now, if Olympus and Panasonic are planning on a sensor the size of a film negative then we users of those cameras have a problem because I do not believe we are going to be able to use our old lenses with the new bodies.

Because they are a crop factor of 2 compared to the size of full frame.

http://photoseek.com/2013/compare-digital-camera-sensor-sizes-full-frame-35mm-aps-c-micro-four-thirds-1-inch-type/

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

NCMtnMan wrote:

Because they are a crop factor of 2 compared to the size of full frame.

http://photoseek.com/2013/compare-digital-camera-sensor-sizes-full-frame-35mm-aps-c-micro-four-thirds-1-inch-type/

And ff is a crop of medium format...and medium format is a crop of large...blah, blah, blah.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

camerapapi wrote:

Why people keep on calling the M43 system "cropped" is beyond me. If using the default 4:3 ratio those cameras are using the whole sensor. Isn't that full frame?
Now, if Olympus and Panasonic are planning on a sensor the size of a film negative then we users of those cameras have a problem because I do not believe we are going to be able to use our old lenses with the new bodies.

Unfortunately, the definition of full frame has come to be known as (nominally) 36x24mm in size. Everything else gets compared to that.

Technically, the only time there is a “crop” is when you put a full frame lens on APS-C, or do something similar with another format. It means the projected image extends well beyond the sensor.

No, technically, Micro 4/3 is not a crop format. But compared with full frame, it has 2x magnification (that colloquially has been called crop factor).

BebuLamar

The only format that is cropped is the APS-C that is used no Canon, Nikon, Pentax and Sony.

R.G. Loc: Scotland

I can remember seeing a review that compared a Panasonic LX100 to a Sony RX100 iii and despite the LX100 having a significantly larger sensor (4/3 compared to Sony's 1") and less pixels (12MP compared to Sony's 20MP) it was significantly out-performed by the Sony where low light/high ISO was concerned. Apparently Panasonic are making the sensor for their new FF camera, so unless they've upped their game where sensor technology is concerned, it won't compare favourably to the other FF cameras that are already out there - at least where low light/high ISO performance is concerned (that could be a deal-breaker for a lot of people).

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

gwilliams6 wrote:

Likely the FF lenses will also fit the micro 4/3rds. There is talk of a work-around for that. IMHO this will be an awesome fusion (stills-video) camera. Panasonic really knows how to do video, as well as this being a great stills camera. IMHO I think this camera will be better competition for Sony than either Nikon or Canon. Cheers

Thats kind of what I was thinking trying to figure out the whys... The three can bring their own expertise to the table and be a REAL strong combined force....

Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

The only format that is cropped is the APS-C that is used no Canon, Nikon, Pentax and Sony.

... and Fuji, Leica, Ricoh, Samsung... Did I miss any?

gwilliams6

Desert Gecko wrote:

... and Fuji, Leica, Ricoh, Samsung... Did I miss any?

Right on, thanks Desert Gecko