I appologize. I was unaware, since there are always so many of them, that they were off duty officers. If that is the case, they are to be commended. As for the second part of my original post, I think it is shameful that we do not show as much respect for our fallen military people.

When I was young I didn't want to be anything but a cop. Thank God that never happened. Mind you I stay on the good side of the law.
I don't know about anywhere else, but here in NYC they are the laziest bastards on earth and a bunch of thieves to boot. They think that they can do whatever they want, they make the rules, and the law doesn't apply to them.
When one of them gets shot, although I know it's not not right, my heart jumps a little for joy.
I have nothing but contempt for them all. If I ever need one I'll do without, thank you!

Selective evidence makes it seem that everyone should be allowed to carry guns. Some facts don't. The people killed accidentally by guns far outnumbers the number of crimes gun owners stop. Just remember, MX missiles don't kill people, people kill people.

The cops must be smarter now, they are required to have a degree these days. Gone are the good old boys who would grab a law breaker and beat the hell out of them and teach them a lesson so to speak. NOW they are mostly a bunch of educated as*&%!#$ that pulls out the weapon of choice and pulls the trigger until it no longer makes any more loud noise. Dead crooks can't sue and can't testify. Personally I don't feel any safer when I see weapons on ANYBODY, irregardless who or what they are, unless they are in my "sights"!

Well just go there Bob. This is not the photography forum.

Cars kill their owners, so do bath tubs, ladders, chain saws, boats , air planes - learn to use it and practice with it to stay "tuned in" Gun safety coerces save thousand of live and only take a few hours to complete.

I appologize. I was unaware, since there are always so many of them, that they were off duty officers. If that is the case, they are to be commended. As for the second part of my original post, I think it is shameful that we do not show as much respect for our fallen military people.

There are 2 thing I would like to add to this discussion. One, to legally carry a gun you need to have a concealed carry permit. There are exceptions like living in Mass. NYC, and parts of California. In most States they have open carry, where you can carry a gun, but it must be totally visable to anyone. Concealed Carry is when the gun must be hidden from view, and a permit is required. To get a permit, in Louisiana, and the member States, you must fill out a form, sware that you are not a felon, not, or ever committed spousal abuse, have ever been treated for mental conditions. Plus, you need to be finger printed, need to aknowledged by the local law inforcement, pass a criminal background review, take a firearm class for your weapon, take a classes for laws pertaining to concealed carry. Upon renewal, must take the firearm test again, and update to the laws. I feel more people should be carrying firearms while out and about. The more people carrying will increse the fear a robber/murderer may have about making contact with his victum. When I shot the robber back in 1980, he already had a knife to my throat. If knew I was armed, he may have thought first.

The second is about the police. I live near the City of New Orleans. The police force there, and in my Parish, Jefferson, has been going through some through house cleaning. Before Katrina, the police force in N.O. was riddled with corruption, and violence. All this came to a head during Katrina, and the months following storm. The police in N.O. actually committed murder more than once. I'm refering to the Dansinger Bride incident, where N.O. police murdered a 18 year old black retarded man, shot a womans arm off, wounded several others, all were trying to flee high water flooding their neighborhood. The police said they were fired upon, and only returned fire, and gun was found on the bridge. The police were cleared of criminal charges by the State Court System. The FBI picked up the case, and found the gun was planted, and 4 of the police officers covered up their actions by a concerted group of lies, and false reports. All are now in prison. Another incedent was the murder of Henry Glover. Mr. Glover was shot by police while sleeping in his car in New Orleans, following Katrina. He was shot by a officer who wanted him to move immediatly. When he hesitated the officer shot him. Other officers attempted to cover up the murder, one burnt the car, with Mr. Glovers body inside, another filed a completly false report. Another officer testified he witnessed the event and lied to investigators, and the court. Finally all were found out, and are now in Federal Prison. Just a few months ago, the warrent squad forced there way into a home where a known drug dealer was supposed to be, and shot a innocent man standing with his back to the entrance door, going up the stairs. Other police shooting have taken place in New Orleans, and Jefferson Parish, that have been deemed murder. Thankfully, the Mayor, of N.O. since Katrina has replaced the Police Chief, with Ronald Surpass from Nashville. He is doing a great job of cleaning out the very bad apples in the N.O.P.D. He requires his officers to be at a higher standard, expects perfection, and will fire, and jail bad officers. Newell Norman of the Jefferson Parish S.O. is rooting out bad officers also. Recently, a officer with rank was fired for malfeasance of office, when he excessivly tasered a suspect.

Every police officer is not bad, but the bad ones get the daily attention of the public, through news reports. Little is mentioned of the dangerous traffic stops, domestic violence calls these officers are involved in. Due to budget restrictions police cannot be everywhere. Most officers have to accept "details" just to make ends meet at home. These details put the officers in further harms way. They guard neighborhoods by added patrols, guard movie theaters, bowling alleys, anywhere a crowd may be. Even the most dangerous detail, guarding a bar, and patrons. These "off duty Police" are required to step in for fights, brawls, shootings, auto accidents, and any thing that may happen during their "detail" for a few extra bucks. However, the police can't be everywhere. That is why I carry my PPK. I will be responsable for my own, and people with me safety. If I am out to dinner, and someone attemts to rob the place, I will step up to the plate, and shoot if I can safely do so without risking a innocent patron. If I can shoot, I will shoot to kill. Why, because the robber has already shown his intention, and weapon. Only you can be responsable for your own safety.

One should consult an automotive engineer for safer seat belts, a civil engineer for a better bridge, a surgeon for internal medicine, a computer programmer for software problems, and Sarah Palin for firearms expertise.

She certainly believes that she knows all she needs to know ….....

"He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't gonna be takin' away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin' sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed." --Sarah Palin, botching the history of Paul Revere's midnight ride, June 3, 2011

What sane and reasonable person could ever argue with that ?

Selective evidence makes it seem that everyone should be allowed to carry guns. Some facts don't. The people killed accidentally by guns far outnumbers the number of crimes gun owners stop. Just remember, MX missiles don't kill people, people kill people.