Kalskag2 wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
tschmath wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
Kalskag2 wrote:
A recent topic included a photo of the President and his wife which had been flipped so that they were using their left hands to cross the right sides of their chests instead of crossing their hearts with their right hands. There was considerable debate as to whether the photograph had been photoshopped.
In that same vein, do you believe that this photo been photoshopped or is it the original?
I like this one better... even though IQ may not be so good the message is much more realistic.
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A much poorer job of Photoshopping.
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LOL it is what it is.... Don't think that anyone was expecting an award with that one.... but from what I understand there are a lot of similarities between Bane and the president. They both stir and manipulate the downtrodden to achieve their respective goals of transforming our society....
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I forgive you for your mistake, because I know you intended to say there are many similarities between Bane and the candidate who once worked for Bain, not the President who is about to be re-elected. Lousy photoshop job, almost as lousy as the Republican candidate for President, who goes off on what should be a a saccharin international trip and somehow manages instead to insult the British, the Palestinians, and Mexico (where he didn't even go). (The insult to the Palestinians could not have made Israel happy, by the way, because it is not in their interests to have the Palestinians inflamed). But then, if you get your news from FOX you wouldn't know about any of this anyway.
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LOL.... Obama is Bane.... Rather than outline the movie for you I will just offer a review I read...
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(1) Occupy Wall Street: The entire film is an ode to traditional capitalism. Bane leads an attack on the Gotham stock market and a stock market executive explains to a cop, clearly unhappy about having to risk life and limb for the fat cats, how investment makes his savings more valuable. Selina Kyle aka Catwoman starts off as an anti-capitalism warrior, explaining to billionaire Bruce Wayne, Do you think this is gonna last? There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us." By the time Bane takes over the city with his communist-fascist regime, shes looking on in horror at the anti-capitalist show trials (straight from the French Revolution, including summary sentencing) and destruction of private property. When she walks into an upscale house and sees how its been destroyed, she says that the house used to be beautiful. Her friend replies, Now its everybodys house. In other words, communism destroys rather than building. The totalitarianism of equality is just that: totalitarianism.
(2) Leftist Populism: When Barack Obama talks constantly about returning the power to the people, all the while monopolizing true power, he sounds an awful lot like Bane, who threatens the city with utter destruction while simultaneously informing them that they, the citizens, are in control.
(3) Criminality: In the world of The Dark Knight Rises, thousands of criminals have been put away under the new Harvey Dent Act, dedicated to the district attorney killed by Batman at the end of The Dark Knight. The Act was passed on the heels of Dents death because Bruce Wayne and Commissioner Gordon conspired to play Dent as a hero rather than telling the truth. Bane reveals the truth that Dent tried to murder Gordons son and tells the population to release these wrongly imprisoned criminals. The population largely complies. And the city ends up in ruins.
(4) Appeasement: The President of the United States has a choice to make with regard to Bane: keep sending food into Gotham, acknowledging the whole time that Bane is holding the city under the threat of nuclear destruction, or try to infiltrate and fight back. The President appeases, with disastrous results. And yes, the word appeasement is used.
(5) Poverty: Poverty is seen as a sort of virtue by many people on the left. Not so in The Dark Knight Rises, where those who grow up poor are held to the same moral standard as those who grow up rich. Furthermore, while we learn that Bane spent time in poverty in a prison and that it toughened him up Bruce Wayne can get just as tough, though he grew up with tremendous wealth. Wayne is the most self-sacrificing character in the film, even though hes also the richest. Wealth is not an automatic moral failing in TDKR. Its a tool to be used for good or evil. And Batman uses it for good.
(6) Guns: One of Batmans rules is that he will not use firearms, since his parents were killed by gunshot. At one point, Kyle has to save him by using guns and she tells him that she disagrees with his rule. Its hard for the audience to disagree, seeing as all the bad guys have guns and in one scene in which thousands of cops charge the Occupy Army of Bane, the Occupy Army blows the underarmed cops away.
(7) Public-Private Partnerships: Bane is able to bring the city to its knees by trapping its police force thanks to the government granting subsidies to a private company for which Bane labors. Corporatism does not go well in the world of The Dark Knight Rises.
(8) Green Energy: Bruce Wayne nearly goes bankrupt thanks to a green energy project he funds. And he also recognizes the dangers of green energy projects that are not fully ready if the world isnt ready for them, he says, they cant be used. Solyndra, anyone?
(9) Law and Order: The great moral arc of the film belongs to Catwoman, who transitions from a thief she sees herself as Robin Hood, and hilariously tells Bruce Wayne that she does more for the poor than he does to a defender of the cops. She allies with Bruce Wayne to help take down the Occupy Army after learning the evils of the communist/totalitarian Bane system.
(10) Humanity: Humanity in the Christopher Nolan world is capable of both great and terrible things, in the words of Ras Al Ghul from Batman Begins. And Nolan doesnt shy away from either. But he clearly believes in human potential without losing the reality that when people are incentivized to do bad things, they do them. We saw shades of this in Batman Begins and a heavy dose of it in The Dark Knight, but we get the heaviest dose of realism in The Dark Knight Rises.
This is a fantastic film, the end of probably the greatest movie trilogy in film history. It is a pure joy to watch for entertainment reasons. Its a joy to watch for moral reasons, too. If culture is upstream of politics, we can only hope that the lessons of The Dark Knight Returns seep down to the politics of its viewers.
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