MT Shooter Loc: Montana

Canon has dropped all its promos for the 7D MK II, and according to my Canon rep they are not recommending stores order any more MK II's right away. Something is definitely in the works. Even Canonpricewatch has dropped the 7D MK II from their street price list!

On closeout pricing at Adorama:
https://www.adorama.com/ica7dm2.html

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Guess I better be saving up. I swapped my 6D and 7DII for a 5DIV and 80D (for the newer sensor and 27 f/8 focus points with my 100-400 II).
The 80D does a great job but I find I now miss all those options and controls the 7DII (and 5DIV) has but the 80D doesn't.

ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)

I got tired of waiting for the successor to this fine camera. I got a 6D II in the meantime. I look forward to great things on the 7d III:

Flippy screen
4K
At least 24 MP
12fps
dual pixel AF
dual SD slots

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

So, let's see, I can buy a...

7D2 bundled w/W-E1 WiFi adapter for $1400.
or a 7D2 bundled w/EF-S 18-135mm IS USM lens and W-E1 for $1800.
or a 7D2 body only "closeout" priced at $1800.

???

If they're trying to "blow them out" to make room on the shelves for a new model, they ain't doing a very good job of it!

ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)

What are you lookin at?

Amazon $1069
https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Mark-Digital-Camera-Body/dp/B00NEWZDRG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1535561097&sr=8-4&keywords=7d+ii&dpID=41Wd4GbZ-HL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

Use caution, this camera is GREY MARKET, not sold by Amazon, its sold by "Prime Electronics".

MT Shooter Loc: Montana

Yeah, its always fun to watch "clearance" deals on discontinued items. most of the time the pricing makes no sense as stores try to dump their lame goose inventory for whatever they can get out of it. Lots of grey market gear is dumped on these "sale" deals as well.

ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)

Thanks, I hate that. We really have to examine this stuff carefully these days!

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

If true, of those "upgrades", only one of them interests me very much.... the increase from 20MP to 24MP.

For me:

- A flippy "Touch Screen" might be nice, but not a deal breaker one way or another.

- 4K? Personally I could care less. If I want to shoot video, I'll buy a video camera. I'm sure the 7DIII will have 4K though.... after all, the D500 has it.

- 12 fps ain't all that different from 10 fps.... Faster frame rates just means more images to post-process! (I already take too many shots... at "merely" 10 fps)

- 7DII already has DPAF. (Though it would be better if it were paired up with a Touch Screen, which the 7DII lacks.)

- Dual SD slots... no thanks. I'd rather have dual CF slots. The larger cards are easier to handle in the field. But I really don't foresee Canon getting away from dissimilar card slots, so I make do with 1 CF, 1 SD. Canon (and everyone else) seem to like that setup (which has some advantages). If anything they might make one slot CFast or XQD compatible, to accommodate the data rate of 4K. Either of those "new" memory card types are similar size to CF (more likely that Canon would use CFast they helped develop, rather than XQD which Nikon/Sony are backing and using).

IMO, besides a nice little bump up in resolution, the biggest and/most likely improvements that Canon could or will make to the 7DIII include:

- More f/8 capable AF points (currently only the center one.... not like 80D/6DII, either, which are f/8 at more points only with certain lenses... more like 5DIV or 1DXII, f/8 at ALL points).

- Delete the built-in flash (for better weather/dust sealing). Ain't gonna happen, but I can wish.

- Make the damned battery trays for the BG-E16 available separately so I can buy extras and preload them with my backup batteries! I HATE fiddling with loading batteries into trays in the field (it was faster and easier before they went to the trays, when you just slid each battery directly into the battery grip). This is a no-brainer and it's just plain DUMB that Canon doesn't offer spare battery trays. What's even worse is Canon can't even understand what I'm asking for! I've spoken with and/or emailed Canon customer service, CDS and their repair/parts dept. Even when I send photos and tell them the BGM-E16L part number of the specific tray I need, they keep trying to sell me AA battery tray BGM-E6 for 5D Mark II grips (which won't even fit)! They also should make the battery trays AND the grips themselves compatible across different camera models. There is NO NEED to have a different grip for each camera. The same should be true of the WFT modules... those also shouldn't be model specific (they've made some steps in that direction).

I'm sure they'll use newer dual processors to handle larger image files even faster, probably along with a bigger buffer to allow more shots continuously.

They also will probably increase the number of AF points... can't have Nikon D500 with 153 points (99 cross type) go unanswered!

I don't necessarily want more AF points... Instead I'd rather that they have a bit broader spread across the image area, both horizontally and vertically. If that means more points, so be it.

I'd love to see Focus Peaking in a Canon DSLR (in Live View, if not in the viewfinder). That would be helpful with manual focus lenses (incl. Canon TS-E and MP-E that I use).

Higher usable ISO is pretty much to be expected. (7DII's native range tops out at ISO 16000, which was darned good in 2014... But the two year newer D500's goes to 51200. I don't use and don't care what the "expanded ISOs" go to. IMO they aren't very usable.)

I can probably think of more, but that's all that comes to mind quickly and it's all just speculation anyway. Depending upon who you listen to, either a 7D Mark III is imminent... or we won't see one until next year, at the earliest!

I suspect the new 7DIII will have built-in WiFi. That's why they're blowing out the W-E1 modules, which if I recall correctly, are only usable in a few cameras that have dual memory card slots, one of which is the SD type required for the module (which only costs $40 when bought separately).

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

And Canon's Refurbished from their on line store will often have a body with lens for the same price or even lower than the body alone. I would speculate that usually means they have a lot of refurbished lenses that aren't selling so they bundle them with a body just to move them out and save storage space.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

I'm looking at 7DII at Adorama and B&H Photo.

I don't trust those oddly low priced cameras on Amazon, being sold by "stores" I've never heard of.... a lot of them are "international" version (aka gray market). I bet the $1000 ones are too, even if they don't say it in the listing. Either that or they're "refurbished" (by whom?).

The only Amazon Direct offer I see is $1400 for the body with the WiFi adapter, exactly the same as Adorama and B&H.