Why ETTR: Continuing on the post of the black cat and pushing exposure, here are 2 photos in raw, posted as jpeg. The first SOOC, the second pushed 4.5 stops only, no other PP. When...

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

Continuing on the post of the black cat and pushing exposure, here are 2 photos in raw, posted as jpeg. The first SOOC, the second pushed 4.5 stops only, no other PP. When there is so much information available in the supposedly underexposed part of the exposure, why risk blown highlights with ETTR?

I should have made clear, this is one photo, only processed through LR.

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CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

If you want any serious comments, you have to attach your processed example so the details can be examined. Otherwise, your post is just a joke.

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

CHG_CANON wrote:

If you want any serious comments, you have to attach your processed example so the details can be examined. Otherwise, your post is just a joke.

Attached what? Do you not see my photos?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

pentaxion wrote:

Attached what? Do you not see my photos?

The second one is only a thumbnail. Since you attached the first one, we know you can do it.

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

Maybe its too big, let me try this again

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

Is this there?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

pentaxion wrote:

Maybe its too big, let me try this again

If you're exporting from LR, just set a file size limit of 10MB (or less). Or, 2048px on the long side, like the dark attachment.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

pentaxion wrote:

Maybe its too big, let me try this again

If it's smaller than 640 pixels wide, it won't generate a download.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

First, pushing that photo, as you did, will allow more noise to be visible in the darker areas of the scene.

Secondly, knowledgeably, exposing to the right will not risk blown highlights.
--Bob

pentaxion wrote:

Continuing on the post of the black cat and pushing exposure, here are 2 photos in raw, posted as jpeg. The first SOOC, the second pushed 4.5 stops only, no other PP. When there is so much information available in the supposedly underexposed part of the exposure, why risk blown highlights with ETTR?

I should have made clear, this is one photo, only processed through LR.

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

I don't know why this is not working, It's 2048 long side, 1.5 MB. Try again.

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

rmalarz wrote:

First, pushing that photo, as you did, will allow more noise to be visible in the darker areas of the scene.

Secondly, knowledgeably, exposing to the right will not risk blown highlights.
--Bob

Yeah, but! I have not seen that your weird white balance or your relearning of basic photo basics makes you in any instance a better photographer than anyone else. The point is that a pedant's insistence on some technical perfection in picture taking ruins the whole enterprise. Pictures are just pictures regardless.

rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin

Pentaxion - Your second, third and fourth images are not posted using the correct UHH instructions. Consequently, we are able to see those images only in “thumbnail” form (a term not related to the image dimensions). If we were able to download those images like we can for your first image, we would be able to more fully appreciate the point you are trying to make. UHH member “rmalarz” is correct that by manually “pushing” (correcting) the exposure you risk introducing “noise” that you don’t want. Also, by not using ETTR, you risk losing additional detail (in the sky, for example) that you do want. — Ralph

pentaxion Loc: Daytona Beach

The point was that there is a lot that one can bring out from an underexposed image, and that there is no need for most photographers to try to expose to the right. Sure there is more information with more input. But there is also the chance of blowing out with too much. It's easy to boost information, but it's impossible to pull it out of nothing. People should be very wary of advice that says to push their exposures beyond what their camera recommends. My photos were only to show what's easily possible, and I don"t care that you can"t see them full size. Jesus, people are too picky.

BebuLamar

Exposure to the right really means watch the right. Give as much exposure as possible but not letting the highlight hit the right. Very similar to audio recording to set the recording level as high as you can without the loudest peak hitting the 0db level.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

pentaxion wrote:

Continuing on the post of the black cat and pushing exposure, here are 2 photos in raw, posted as jpeg. The first SOOC, the second pushed 4.5 stops only, no other PP. When there is so much information available in the supposedly underexposed part of the exposure, why risk blown highlights with ETTR?

I should have made clear, this is one photo, only processed through LR.

If used correctly it is not possible to blow the highlights with ETTR. I use ETTR for nearly all of my shooting. But I use the camera's spotmeter to measure the highlights I wish to retain detail in, and add no more than 2 stops to that reading. I usually use more like 1 1/3 to 1 2/3.