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Aug 18, 2018 08:28:58   #
gmw12 Loc: Indianapolis & Windsor/UK & Montreux/Switzerl
 
I started to digitize my old 35mm color negatives ( I duplicate them on a DSLR in DNG format). But I havn't found out yet how to convert them into positives...Is there a PP software that can handle that?

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Aug 18, 2018 08:33:47   #
hawleyrw Loc: Dayton, OH
 
I use an older (bought it several years ago) Minolta Dimage scanner made just for slides and negatives. Software that came with that dies the negative-to-positive conversion

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Aug 18, 2018 08:34:06   #
Cheapshot Loc: California.
 
You need a scanner.

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Aug 18, 2018 08:47:50   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Assuming you have captured the reversed images, get a copy of VueScan and convert the negatives. Also, many editors, for example, PSE or Photoshop should have image inverters built in. CNTRL-I ?

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Aug 18, 2018 08:51:51   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Invert and color correct with the tone curve tools in Photoshop or Lightroom. Once you get it right for a particular film stock, save a preset!

Scanners with color neg conversion software are much easier to use.

Every brand, type, speed, age, and emulsion number of color negative film is different! Then you throw the color temperature of the light in each scene into the equation. The result is a tedious conversion process.

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Aug 18, 2018 09:17:43   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
gmw12 wrote:
I started to digitize my old 35mm color negatives ( I duplicate them on a DSLR in DNG format). But I haven't found out yet how to convert them into positives...Is there a PP software that can handle that?


You can copy Color slides, B&W negatives or B&W prints with a camera. I've done it even for 4x5" films. But do yourself a big favor and get a scanner for color negatives or you will go insane trying to remove the orange-red mask manually. The software with a scanner can do that easily. Say a model Epson Perfection V5xx to V8xx Photo. Have fun.

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Aug 18, 2018 10:33:55   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You can copy Color slides, B&W negatives or B&W prints with a camera. I've done it even for 4x5" films. But do yourself a big favor and get a scanner for color negatives or you will go insane trying to remove the orange-red mask manually. The software with a scanner can do that easily. Say a model Epson Perfection V5xx to V8xx Photo. Have fun.


I have used two methods...(1) Canon Scanner...with built-in film type setting...Photoshop editing...,and (2) copy with Nikon camera using Bowens slide copier.... Do White balance using piece of blank negative film ...edit in Photoshop....and print away...

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Aug 18, 2018 10:54:56   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
If you get a scanner with the lighted top you can scan a positive image and not have to deal with conversion.

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Aug 18, 2018 11:00:06   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
gmw12 wrote:
I started to digitize my old 35mm color negatives ( I duplicate them on a DSLR in DNG format). But I havn't found out yet how to convert them into positives...Is there a PP software that can handle that?


Have you tried a curve setting? Simply reverse the curve and see if that helps. I think it might but not sure.

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Aug 18, 2018 11:55:07   #
gmw12 Loc: Indianapolis & Windsor/UK & Montreux/Switzerl
 
Thank you all for your feedback. I probably did not express myself properly. I already digitized the negs by duplicating them with a DSLR. I have now DNG files which I need to invert and I thought there must be a piece of s/w to do that. I only have a few rolls of color negs from the past which would not justify acquiring a scanner. I'll check with viewscan next.

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Aug 18, 2018 11:58:48   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
gmw12 wrote:
Thank you all for your feedback. I probably did not express myself properly. I already digitized the negs by duplicating them with a DSLR. I have now DNG files which I need to invert and I thought there must be a piece of s/w to do that. I only have a few rolls of color negs from the past which would not justify acquiring a scanner. I'll check with viewscan next.


Vuescan, Silverfast, Photoshop, Lightroom and others will do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2gLT0SWzpQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VleIpumytzY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy7c2ikUhcM

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Aug 18, 2018 13:36:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You can copy Color slides, B&W negatives or B&W prints with a camera. I've done it even for 4x5" films. But do yourself a big favor and get a scanner for color negatives or you will go insane trying to remove the orange-red mask manually. The software with a scanner can do that easily. Say a model Epson Perfection V5xx to V8xx Photo. Have fun.


Scanners are slow, but I advise people to scan 35mm film at the maximum optical resolution anyway. You’ll need it for printing 8x10 and larger.

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Aug 18, 2018 14:50:13   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Open your image editor's graphic channel mixer. Take the RGB graph and flip it around. Then make adjustments to the individual color channels (R, G and B) to adjust the color tones and remove the bluish cast - a little difficult to get right at first, but after a few times it becomes increasingly easy.

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Aug 19, 2018 04:54:46   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Changed my mind about replying. I found more information. Found YouTube videos showing and explaining rook3c4's method.

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Aug 19, 2018 05:24:30   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
lamiaceae wrote:
You've copied color negatives that way and used only photoshop. How? That is a lot of balance from balanced white! A color negative does not really even produce a true RGB image (file). Yes, using an optical slide copier is another way to copy film other than a light box or scanner. But again sounds like trouble for color negatives. I've certainly never gotten good color from color negatives other than by Scanner. This might be the one or two cases where in-camera JPEG is better than RAW since you can set an applied WB. The colored mask is probably well beyond ACR! I'm not the only one suggesting to use a scanner.
You've copied color b negatives /b that way and ... (show quote)


Some while since the last time I did Col' Neg conversions, but seem to remember setting a Pre' white balance with piece of blank (processed) film in the negative stage, before exposing the negatives to be copied, onto a Digital camera. The digital images were then edited in Photoshop using whatever tools necessary to obtain a good print.
If you say it cannot be done, then I will not bother doing any more.

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