gerdog

Bill Clinton didn't have a rich daddy pay off a doctor for a phony medical report claiming that poor little Donald has debilitating bone spurs in his foot. There were virtually tens of thousands of young men trudging through the jungles of southeast Asia with feet that hurt worse than anything Trump ever experienced. You should look up his history. He was a star athlete. He had pro baseball scouts watching him. But you can't get a draft deferment for being a pro ball player. You can't get the draft board to buy into a phony medical report when you are a star athlete that same year. When Mr. Trump told an interviewer recently that he sacrificed a lot for the vietnam war, that is what he was thinking about. He could have been in the Major Leagues, but he had to give up on that dream. I was a teen during that war. I saw how the rich kids got out of the draft. They didn't have to flee the country to evade the draft, but they had the funds to do so if it came down to that. Why do you think rich people like Romney have Swiss bank accounts? A nice secret way to support a family member who flees the law. I supported amnesty for the ones who fled the country, but I also determined that I would never vote for an evader for any public office, especially for the highest office. College deferments were legal under the law, but phony medical records were not. I joke to myself that an army doctor could cure his bone spurs in 2 minutes with a ball peen hammer. But the truth is that bone spurs like that are exceedingly rare, and if they were so bad, a doctor could have fixed him up with outpatient surgery. His family could certainly have afforded it. He never had bone spurs. As Mitt Romney put it, "Donald Trump is a fraud...".

gerdog

It really shows what kind of creep Trump is, doesn't it? Some young man took Trump's place in the draft too. Perhaps one of the ones in Arlington Cemetery. Makes me sick every time he is forced to be there for a ceremony.

gerdog

If you can't stand behind your own words, don't write them. Name calling is the last resort of the incompetent.

gerdog

It has gotten to the point where people in Congress would rather not have to vote on anything, so their votes can't be used against them in the next election. Both sides are guilty of this. Just naturally gives the presidency more and more power. Apparently, doing nothing has become their go to option.

gerdog

[quote=hasslichhog][quote=rmorrison1116]I don't believe it's the US'S ignorance, just that of one egocentric man and his minority following, after all, he didn't even win the popular vote. Do away with the electoral college, it no longer serves a purpose, hasn't for many, many years...[/quote

Your ignorance of America's politics and the historic need for the electoral college is vast and borders on stupid. The meanng of "Popular" in "Popular vote" must be defined

Years ago our electors rightly decided that every eligible voter's vote counted no matter where the voter lived, whether on a farm in South Dakota or in the environs of New York City. Areas of America have historically ranged from deeply conservative to wildly liberal. East Coasters, West Coasters, Southerners and Mid-Westerners differed politically.The East Coast, South and West Coast were heavily populated, while the Midwest was not.

With such vastly different populations and political and social stances, there can be no such thing as a meaningful, workable "popular" vote.

Why shouldn't the conservative voters of limited-population South Dakota have as much say in national elections as voters in over-populated and liberal New York?

Therefor, the electoral college was created to give SD voters the same political power in national Presidential elections as those of NY.

So, to mention anything about a "popular" vote is to talk about a non-entity, a non-existing vote.

Hillary lost the presidential election by a legal electoral landslide! So, buy some more Kleenex and shut up already![/quote]
The electoral college isn't likely to change anytime soon. It would take a Constitutional Amendment. The flaw in your argument is that currently everyone's vote doesn't count, or the majority would have won. Republicans in California are reluctant to get out to vote for President because they already know that all of the state's electoral votes will go for the Democrat. Likewise for Democratic voters in predominately Republican states. That's why the founders gave each state 2 seats in the Senate, no matter the size of the state. They didn't envision how powerful the Presidency would become. They didn't envision that the economy would become national and international, rather than local. We are at the point where the idea of individual states just isn't the right model anymore.When the person with the most individual votes loses, obviously everyone's vote was not worth the same.

Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az

Shall we go back through your posts to find examples of name calling on your posts?

I can stand behind my words; I can"t when people try to change the paragraph of my words to their thinking. Old saying can take a horse to water but can't make him drink! Words like "imply" when it post is clear or when they cut when an idea that requires to be more than one sentence. That is why a paragraph is written. More sentences are needed to deal with the same idea being relayed.

Oh and last resort of the incompetent is not name calling. They start when they have no fact to back them up. And like you it starts early because of a lack of facts and trying to change something into something it is not. Like you stating "implied" when normal people could understand the paragraph in its entirety.

As for horses ass, was explained by, you putting on horse blinders to have only a pin pointed view on the road and not seeing at lest 180 degrees around the subject. Taking a sentence or two and claiming it was the idea when the paragraph explained it clearly. So you are a horses ass and also a lot of crap comes from you from that end too of a horse!

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Your trying confer with living denial

gerdog

Yes, please. Go back through my posts and find examples of my name calling.

R2F

Nice way to deflect. Well done. Clinton was a draft dodger too. As in also. If you have read other posts of mine you would see that I am not a Trump supporter. The left has a short memory when it comes to their side only. That is why they are truly the party of hypocrites. I voted for Trump because his last name wasn't Bush or Clinton and was the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion. I have also bashed the right when they deserve it. You simply sound like you hate rich people.

R2F

Fact!

gerdog

Plenty of good rich people out there too, for sure. I didn't vote for Clinton for his second term because he was such a disappointment. Hopefully there will never be a draft to dodge again.