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Jun 30, 2018 15:01:14   #
alphonso49uk
 
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600mm..Its a great camera, no doubt about that but comes of course with the age old problem of carrying heavy lenses around as well as having to change them. Im going on a trip to Ethiopia later in the year and dont really want the hassle of changing lenses.I know the 28-300 covers most situations but even though I like that lens, even I have to admit its no good for wildlife etc. I have looked at images taken with the sony rx10m3 on flickr and to be fair have been blown away with the image quality.Ive had bridge cameras in the past...most recently the fz1000 but never got on with the IQ they generated or the amount of noise generated.Ive looked at the sony images in both good and low light and can see little if any difference in image quality to what Im getting with the current set up. Does anyone out there have first hand experience of low light performance with the Sony and whether noise can be a problem?

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Jun 30, 2018 15:15:23   #
AlohaJim Loc: Retired. Hawaii >> N. Arizona.
 
DW and I recently test drove the Sony RX10 MK IV. It is an outstanding camera and the Zeiss lens is crisp. However, because of the 1" sensor, it exhibits similar image limitations to the RX100 MK V which I own and use often. IMHO, both cameras are "high end" and get the most they can out of the 1" sensor. But, it's still a 1" sensor limited by the fixed glass on them. Move up to an APS-C sensor Sony A6500 with faster glass, and low light performance improves greatly. Move up from that to the A9 or Canon 5d/1D full frames with fast glass, and then there's another big jump in low light performance. Again, IMHO the RX10 is an outstanding camera and best in class, for its class.
I hope this helps answer your query. I am a fan of low natural light shooting handheld. Thus, the fastest glass and largest sensor, and so forth, fits the bill.

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Jun 30, 2018 16:47:41   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600mm..Its a great camera, no doubt about that but comes of course with the age old problem of carrying heavy lenses around as well as having to change them. Im going on a trip to Ethiopia later in the year and dont really want the hassle of changing lenses.I know the 28-300 covers most situations but even though I like that lens, even I have to admit its no good for wildlife etc. I have looked at images taken with the sony rx10m3 on flickr and to be fair have been blown away with the image quality.Ive had bridge cameras in the past...most recently the fz1000 but never got on with the IQ they generated or the amount of noise generated.Ive looked at the sony images in both good and low light and can see little if any difference in image quality to what Im getting with the current set up. Does anyone out there have first hand experience of low light performance with the Sony and whether noise can be a problem?
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600m... (show quote)


These were all taken with an RX10M4 - the image quality is the same as the RX10M3, but the AF is better on the newer camera, and there are a few other improvements.

I did take the RX10M3 for a day-long test drive and was pretty impressed, but I waited for the M4.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/albums/72157696606493264
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Jul 1, 2018 05:48:05   #
Sendai5355 Loc: On the banks of the Pedernales River, Texas
 
I have a MkIII. My main complaint is auto focus in low light conditions. Also the menu takes a little (maybe a whole lot) getting use to.

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Jul 1, 2018 06:01:18   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
I shoot stage plays that take place in a gym at a local theater group. I have used a Canon 5D Mark III, Canon 7D Mark II, Canon 80D, and last Sony RX10 IV. Of all the camera, the best shots were taken with the Sony. Love it, in fact, I am selling my Canon equipment in favor of the Sony. Lighter, and IMHO does a fantastic job. Good luck!

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Jul 1, 2018 07:23:29   #
daldds Loc: NYC
 
I was in Estonia on a cruise last summer with an Oly micro 4/3. The only lens I took was the 12-100 Zuiko pro. I would guess that 90%+ of my shots were wide angle to some degree or other, and many were in shade. Not once did I wish I had a telephoto. I have a Sony RX100iii which I use constantly with confidence as a walk around here in NYC, but recognize it is limited. Two shots attached from Estonia: the Sony probably would have given me the same result with the two girls, but not at all the same with the street scene.
With no reason or chance to return to someplace, I want the versatility of the Oly.





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Jul 1, 2018 07:26:35   #
ELNikkor
 
Get the RX10M4 and unload the heavy stuff. Do panos and use denoise when necessary.

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Jul 1, 2018 08:24:46   #
jims203 Loc: Connecticut
 
I too, have come to the same conclusion. My D500, grip and 200-500 lens are just too much weight for hiking and wildlife. Most of the time I roll it all in a good sized duffle bag which holds a tripod, folding step stool and backpack as well as a small cooler when needed. I have looked at youtube videos and studied many flickr images taken with both the RX10 iii and IV. For all around and travel nothing comes close. The IV has major improvements and I will be buying one in the near future. Everyone loves them.

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Jul 1, 2018 11:08:53   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600mm..Its a great camera, no doubt about that but comes of course with the age old problem of carrying heavy lenses around as well as having to change them. Im going on a trip to Ethiopia later in the year and dont really want the hassle of changing lenses.I know the 28-300 covers most situations but even though I like that lens, even I have to admit its no good for wildlife etc. I have looked at images taken with the sony rx10m3 on flickr and to be fair have been blown away with the image quality.Ive had bridge cameras in the past...most recently the fz1000 but never got on with the IQ they generated or the amount of noise generated.Ive looked at the sony images in both good and low light and can see little if any difference in image quality to what Im getting with the current set up. Does anyone out there have first hand experience of low light performance with the Sony and whether noise can be a problem?
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600m... (show quote)


I agree with AlohaJim and Gene51 about the A6500 and the Sony RX10M4 comments. But since you wanted to get away from changing lenses, my suggestion would be to purchase the M4, father reach and suitable for wildlife....enjoy your trip

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Jul 1, 2018 11:40:58   #
James56 Loc: Nashville, Tennessee
 
The Sony does well in low light. I often shoot performances at ISO 800-1200. Some noise but nothing that can't be managed in post. Having 600mm of zoom allows you to get in tight on the action. It's a great all purpose camera.
Soloist Stephanie Moore. DSC04058-01-2048 by James Frazier, on Flickr

Natasha Neely cast member on the General Jackson Showboat. DSC04857-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr

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Jul 1, 2018 12:11:59   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600mm..Its a great camera, no doubt about that but comes of course with the age old problem of carrying heavy lenses around as well as having to change them. Im going on a trip to Ethiopia later in the year and dont really want the hassle of changing lenses.I know the 28-300 covers most situations but even though I like that lens, even I have to admit its no good for wildlife etc. I have looked at images taken with the sony rx10m3 on flickr and to be fair have been blown away with the image quality.Ive had bridge cameras in the past...most recently the fz1000 but never got on with the IQ they generated or the amount of noise generated.Ive looked at the sony images in both good and low light and can see little if any difference in image quality to what Im getting with the current set up. Does anyone out there have first hand experience of low light performance with the Sony and whether noise can be a problem?
I have a d810 with a 28-300mm and tamron 150-600m... (show quote)

I have a RX10 III converted to full spectrum for astrophotography and IR photography, and a RX10 IV for everything else. I also have Sony's A7S and A7R II but find I use the RX10's 90% of the time.

As for low light shooting, I've pushed the ISO to 6400 on occasions to stop low light action with reasonable success. The attached image was shot handheld at 600mm (eq) and ISO 6400. Best to get an image as opposed to missing the opportunity!

Good luck in your quest.

bwa


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Jul 1, 2018 12:27:00   #
GeneS Loc: Glendale,AZ
 
By all means go for the mark IV both III are good but the focus in low light is really great in the IV

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Jul 1, 2018 13:00:21   #
alphonso49uk
 
Thanks for all your input, particularly those who posted photos. As I thought I cant see any difference in hq to what Im getting with the d810...and I hardly ever blow up prints to large sizes. Im gonna sell the tamron 150-600......and hopefully get the mk4.......obviously the wife cant find out!

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Jul 1, 2018 13:18:36   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
alphonso49uk wrote:
Thanks for all your input, particularly those who posted photos. As I thought I cant see any difference in hq to what Im getting with the d810...and I hardly ever blow up prints to large sizes. Im gonna sell the tamron 150-600......and hopefully get the mk4.......obviously the wife cant find out!


They never can...

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Jul 1, 2018 13:41:11   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
James56 wrote:
The Sony does well in low light. I often shoot performances at ISO 800-1200. Some noise but nothing that can't be managed in post. Having 600mm of zoom allows you to get in tight on the action. It's a great all purpose camera.
Soloist Stephanie Moore. DSC04058-01-2048 by James Frazier, on Flickr

Natasha Neely cast member on the General Jackson Showboat. DSC04857-01 by James Frazier, on Flickr
The Sony does well in low light. I often shoot pe... (show quote)


Which Sony do you use? These are nice!

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