drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

We do not need the passive invasion. Send them back to the country they came from. Let them fix their own country like we did our over 200 years ago. Our freedom cost lives and homes of our citizens then and over the years to stay free. Let us not waste those lives that set us free.

dljen Loc: Central PA

But we have money to have Trump's vanity parade, huh?

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

You are the prisoner of a small, over generalizing mind, confused by the facts and reality. You have sought the virtue of simplicity, and have thus achieved the status of a simpleton.

Congratulations.

dljen Loc: Central PA

Whoa, I'd hate to have a mind such as yours. Don't talk of freedom when you endorse baby prisons.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

I’m not certain ‘passively’ is the word you want, but you lack understanding. If you took the trouble to look into what these people are running from, you would have a little more understanding.

It’s such a simple thing to stand on the soap box and pontificate mindlessly.

Actual life is more complex. We support massive crime and violence in Central America in order to pay for our collective drug habit. We send massive amounts of cash for our recreation, and this cash has destroyed any semblance of local government there, fed violence there, and has driven innocent citizens here.

Who do you think is to blame? If we drive them up here with our cash, if we drive them out of their country, if we destroy their country with our cash and crime, ought we not accept their presence here?

Is our massive crime so much better than innocent laborers trying to raise children to maturity?

It is a dispicable story in Central America and we play a very, very large and dispicable part in it, and we lie to ourselves about our part in it.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

This is total BS!! They can’t build a nation that we destroyed with our drug money, that we continue to fund, that we support today to the tune of Billions of dollars!

We get high, and Central America gets destroyed, and we—WE!!—disapprove...sort of holier than thou., right?

How can they fix their own country when we are so good, very very good, at destroying it.

I saw a TV clip from one of the Central American countries, and the reporter said, “we can stand right here, on the intersection of these two streets. The North-South street is controlled by one gang, and the East-West street is controlled by another, and it is death to go on either if you aren’t in the appropriate gang, but this intersection—which is actually both streets, the North-South Street and the East-West Street is neutral territory.”

Boys of 8-10 years old are forced to join one gang or the other, or are killed. The opposing gang may kill them anyway. Similarly aged girls are recruited for sex, of course.

This is what WE have built with our drug money, and yet we can cast aspersions.

EyeSawYou

Your entire response is based on stupid.

drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

Not our job to take in all other countries refugees because they are running from an oppressive regime. It is the person running from that regime to solve their own problems where they live like our forefathers did for us. USA needs to fix it's internal problems long before it needs outside involvement. if our nation is as broke as our politicians then we need to help no one but our own people who are living in the streets currently as well as the veterans who are homeless and want to work. Fix our own door step first.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

How can you speak with such authority about what it is our responsibility and what is not? This is a serious question, not a rhetorical question.

First off, it’s not a repressive regime these people run from; it is civilian gangs who rule the streets, and these groups exist because we send them billions of dollars for illegal drugs. It seems to me we have direct responsibility in fixing this situation, contrary to what you believe, and the solution in Central America and in this country will never be solved until this gang situation is solved—and only we can do it.

And this is exactly one of the internal problems you think we should address immediately.

Perhaps you could clarify this, “if our nation is as broke as our politicians then we need to help no one but our own people who are living in the streets currently as well as the veterans who are homeless and want to work.”

Our own doorstep, among many perhaps, is an internal drug problem which fuels the immigration issue. As long as the gangs run the countries of Central America, there will be a powerful immigration movement.

R2F

Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

My last post is one might wonder and lot of issues. Why are the refugees not staying in Mexico? If you live in Central America you have to walk right
up through all of Mexico to get to the US border. I thought if foreigners come here and request asylum our laws say the request must be considered
by our government. Do people know the the border wall will never work read about it. Aren't we a people that never let children be in danger?
If we see a child who looks lost we ask to help. Why are so many people against immigration. Most of us are immigrants or our grandparents
are immigrants. Workers have been coming in through Mexico for years. Mexicans and Americans travel across the bridges, driving and walking.
Millions of people legally work, go to school, see family and live a 2 country life. So what is the big surprise. Politics creating fear for votes.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

Well, if you were taking the long walk (actually, a large part of it is riding on the tops of boxcars) would you choose the short stop in Mexico, or go a little longer to the USA? I’m sure a lot of them do stop along the way, but some want to walk to heaven, and can you blame them?

I think you’re right about asylum except where stupid trump is involved.

I agree the border wall will never work. You can’t build a wall a hungry man (or woman with her child) can’t get over, under, or around. Billions of dollars pissed away, for nuttin’.

People want to keep brown people out because they’re afraid America will turn minority White, and they will then be in a minority.

dljen Loc: Central PA

America is browning and some will never accept it. I think, in most cases, it's the older generation. By the time they're in the minority, I doubt it'll be a crisis. The younger generation is going to have to accept a lot but I think this won't be a problem.

drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

I and a lot of folks I know have not contributed to buying drugs. I take Trumps side and you and the press that lies tells you a lot of mis information and you go right on believing it. Sad to say my law enforcement training says if one breaks the law of the land one must suffer the things that follow because you broke the law of the land. You only see what the press wants you to see. As for the gangs law enforcement top leaders are mostly afraid of them in our country. Individual police make the arrests and the judges let them go. I lived below drug dealers and forced them out by reporting them to everyone. Drugs come across our boarders daily and nightly and you want open boarders. How about you let the local dealers live above you? I am sure you might not want it going on there. When they speak a different language than you do but you know when the handoff is made what they are doing what do you do? I since being a veteran armed myself and turned the all in with as much evidence as a video and photographer can film. they swore to get me but it has been a few years since and i am still here while word on the street is that the leader is in jail now.
I have been in local pubs where the mexicans harassed all the women in the pub until I quietly asked for them to show their green card. The mexicans immediately left. yes we can ask that question legally. So i base this a lot on my experiences with illegals who do not obey our laws and thumb their noses at them knowing the only thing they can get for punishment here is deportation and then they return to do it all over again. Simple cure from law enforcement is to not let them in at all unless they qualify t be let in. Most will not qualify. Some will and until you know who does or does not they should be kept confined because if let loose our law enforcement officials will never find them to just tell them yes it's Ok or to say no your are going back until then they stay confined. Hell when a land slide or flood ruins homes those refugees that are citizens live under worse conditions than the illegals do. Have you ever lost it all? If not then you do not know. have you been really homeless and lived on our streets? If not then you do not know how it is to be worse off than refugees who get food water clothing and possibly a bed. The homeless sleep on the streets on park benches with not even that foil like blanket. I say fix our interior problems and send the illegals back until we fix our in home problems. I am sorry if you do not understand or are so fooled by the media that a lot of illegals might be dangerous living next door to you. I know how that feels. You sir make more money than I ever made so go ahead and house a few at your rental home to see how they destroy it. I have seen and helped my land lord fix and repair his property from that kind of damage.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

I bet you often miss the bus, don’t you?

“I and a lot of folks I know have not contributed to buying drugs. I take Trumps side and you and the press that lies tells you a lot of misinformation and you go right on believing it.”

What you say here has nothing to do with anything.

Follow this: You and your friends have not contributed to buying drugs, and I haven’t either. Nonetheless, it is common knowledge that America spends Billions of dollars a year on illegal drugs.

And this is not a law enforcement issue, as it is also common knowledge the law enforcement cannot stop drugs entering our borders, even with the help of the military.

We are beset by an immigration problem, fueled by total violence in the countries of Central America, and civilization and government authority are currently non-functional there, right? And this violence forces parents of young children into desperate trips to give their children a chance in life.

Our immigration is rooted in and fueled by massive transfers of wealth from the USA to the gangs in Central America, regardless of whether or not you personally bought drugs or anybody you know bought drugs.

Massive wealth transfer is massive wealth transfer, and—transferring or not in your case—you and those you know are victims of this transfer.

When we gain control over this massive transfer of wealth, we can make progress of defeating illegal immigration.

Nothing else will do.