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Jun 23, 2018 06:43:43   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
PhotoKurtz wrote:
I have difficulty with Quetions like that.


Me, too. And who exactly is "HHH?"

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Jun 23, 2018 06:59:44   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bjwags wrote:
In reading HHH, i am learning some things, but can i ask a question to you experts? I have a Canon EOS 5i that i have had about 2.5 years. From what i read that is an entry level DSLR, which is ok, cuz i am entering this hobby. I want to learn most of the capabilities of my camera. Little by little i am learning, and i am determined to keep on. I am in my 70's and decide i dont want to world to get away from me! I dont want to always use my camera in Auto, i may as well use a point and shoot. Any way i am trying to figure out some exposure situations - my camera has a choice in the menu( i forget which one) maybe exposure compensation? of using "backlight" If i choose that am i still in M mode? and do i still choose f stops and/or shutter speed for a pic ? I have other questions about stuff but will post at other times for those. I read the manuel and "Dummies" book for my specific camera which helps a lot. But I am trying to figure things out. Thanks so much for any advice.
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The Backlight option is good for situations where the subject is in normal light, but there is bright light behind it. That's a very difficult situation. Ordinarily, the camera will expose for the bright background light, but in Backlight, it will increase exposure so the subject looks okay.

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Jun 23, 2018 07:00:14   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Me, too. And who exactly is "HHH?"


It's UUU, one row down. : )

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Jun 23, 2018 07:21:13   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
rjaywallace wrote:
A. Jean, respecfully, I believe the OP stated initially that he had purchased and read both of those books. /Ralph


Reading and understanding are two different things.

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Jun 23, 2018 07:30:16   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
emusicster wrote:
It seems that explaining "Manual", "M" mode setting as opposed to a book of instructions, is sort of like explaining jazz to a novice musician. There a number of settings that can be chosen by the photographer. ISO, Shutter Speed, Aperture, White Balance, Depth of Field, etc. "M" allows you to play with them in many ways. Your experimentation will lead you to like it, eventually even to love it. A musician has myriad scales and chords to choose from in order to play "jazz". Composing on the fly requires a lot of experimentation and knowledge of many aspects of musicianship. Once experience has done its teaching "Jazz" and "M" become preferred. Musicians hunt sounds, Photographers hunt images. Good luck, play pretty, and happy hunting.
It seems that explaining "Manual", "... (show quote)


Great analogy. Just imagine there is a Photographer out there somewhere named John Coltrane!

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Jun 23, 2018 07:51:17   #
ELNikkor
 
If the hummingbird is back-lit, have you tried using flash? Is there any way to move your humming bird feeder into the sun? Their wings beat so fast, you need a very high shutter speed to freeze the wings if you are not using a flash.

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Jun 23, 2018 07:59:27   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
bjwags wrote:
In reading HHH, i am learning some things, but can i ask a question to you experts? I have a Canon EOS 5i that i have had about 2.5 years. From what i read that is an entry level DSLR, which is ok, cuz i am entering this hobby. I want to learn most of the capabilities of my camera. Little by little i am learning, and i am determined to keep on. I am in my 70's and decide i dont want to world to get away from me! I dont want to always use my camera in Auto, i may as well use a point and shoot. Any way i am trying to figure out some exposure situations - my camera has a choice in the menu( i forget which one) maybe exposure compensation? of using "backlight" If i choose that am i still in M mode? and do i still choose f stops and/or shutter speed for a pic ? I have other questions about stuff but will post at other times for those. I read the manuel and "Dummies" book for my specific camera which helps a lot. But I am trying to figure things out. Thanks so much for any advice.
In reading HHH, i am learning some things, but can... (show quote)


What is HHH? Can people please not abbreviate everything, not everyone knows what these abbreviations mean.

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Jun 23, 2018 08:08:49   #
marciamyers Loc: Georgetown, In.
 
I would suggest googling “Chelsea and Tony Northrup tutorial” for your particular camera.,....canon 5si or whatever it is. Having never done any photography, I purchased my first DSLR 6 mo. ago and found the manual overwhelmingly confusing.....the tutorial was at first also, but then I rewatched in smaller increments and found it very helpful. It may not answer all your questions, but it may clear up some things.

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Jun 23, 2018 08:09:37   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Betsy, it seems as if your problem is to learn using exposure compensation. It is available in any shooting mode except for manual although I have heard that some new cameras allow to use exposure compensation in the manual mode.
If you watch You Tube often and do a search there for EC I am sure you will find lots of information. There is lots of information on-line also and the instruction manual of your camera surely have a good explanation on it.
At times we fail to show sensitivity when trying to help someone but understand there is an excellent group of photographers in the forum willing to help and they are knowledgeable.
Do not get discouraged and ask questions that will improve on your photography. There will be always many of us that will be willing to help.

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Jun 23, 2018 08:41:13   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
CLF wrote:
Betsy, I sent you a PM and I hope it helps. Greg
I had sent Betsy a pm also, prior to her mentioning wanting to shoot hummingbirds specifically.

Sadly we have lost far too many good people here because of "snarky" and lack of consideration for an OP's sincere request for help. Peterff suggested that UHH has become worse in this way over time, but I have two topics from early 2013 where I observed the rudeness of some members, or the simple ignorance/lack of consideration shown by irrelevant comments.

Peter suggested I myself have exhibited troll-bully traits recently but whatever negativity I express has been reaction to others' rudeness. I used to be more quiet, I suppose, because commenting like this is often only adding fuel to fires that refuse to extinguish.

And yes, I recognize the irony that I've now hijacked this topic by talking about these issues. But the OP herself said on page 1, "I will continue trying to figure it out on my own without some of the snarky answers I see here. I was hoping for some wise advice or suggestions. I'm disappointed."

It's probably a fact of life that internet forums are not going to work out for everyone, but I think it's still worth remembering that we all need to think about the value of our comments - especially to a new forum user or photographer - prior to posting. In particular, if an opening isn't clear, just move on to the next topic. There will be plenty of folks who come along who do know what is being asked - or think they do

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Jun 23, 2018 09:22:30   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
bjwags wrote:
I wasn't exactly sure how to post .my question. The option is actually in the scn mode. And in reading more I can't use that on a moving subject. I am trying to get a good picture of a hummingbird from my porch which makes the little guy a dark shadow. I will continue trying to figure it out on my own without some of the snarky answers I see here. I was hoping for some wise advice or suggestions. I'm disappointed.
Betsy

If you had explained that you were trying to photograph a hummingbird and the bird was coming out too dark, you would not have gotten any so-called snarky answers. Unless you light the bird with a speedlight (flash) what will happen is that either the bird will be too dark and the background just right or the background will be overexposed and the bird just right. So get yourself an inexpensive speedlight and mount it on your camera.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:28:25   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
A. JEAN wrote:
There is a " photography for dummies". Book available at most bookstores - a six in one for about $40.00. It is the best I have found so far, that and your manual are all you need. Lyle


He already said he has the dummies book.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:53:17   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I shoot mostly in Program mode so I can change the shutter speed or aperture with the turn of a dial and the other will adjust accordingly. I'll use Auto-ISO indoors in low light. Flash is always in Manual mode.

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Jun 23, 2018 10:00:51   #
Nikon1201
 
Do to YouTube , your answer is there

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Jun 23, 2018 11:00:25   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
bjwags wrote:
I wasn't exactly sure how to post .my question. The option is actually in the scn mode. And in reading more I can't use that on a moving subject. I am trying to get a good picture of a hummingbird from my porch which makes the little guy a dark shadow. I will continue trying to figure it out on my own without some of the snarky answers I see here. I was hoping for some wise advice or suggestions. I'm disappointed.
Betsy


Betsy,
The first thing is to realize that shooting hummingbirds is not a 'beginners' shot. They are demanding on both skills and equipment, but if you have a couple of regular visitors you should be able to get them with a bit of research, practice, patience and most of all - luck. Try this link for a basic primer - https://digital-photography-school.com/how-to-photograph-hummingbirds/

I don't use Manual much, but this is one situation I would. You need a pretty short exposure like 1/000 to freeze the wings and use your widest aperture to isolate them from the background which means your focus needs to be fast and spot on. Use center metering and spot or center focus-continuous if possible. Let the ISO go to what it needs to get the shot but keep on eye on it. Adjust the aperture and shutter if it gets too high. You will also need a medium to long zoom lens to get close enough.

Using fill flash will help to balance the front and back lighting. Your in-built flash may be sufficient, but you will probably need an externel speedlight as already mentioned. Turn off 'red-eye' because the pre-flash will delay the exposure.

Obviuosly there is no way you are going to set this up in the few micro seconds you have to shoot the pesky things. Try to have your camera set up and ready to go beforehand. Take a couple of test shots with some sort of test object. Above all be patient. I was in Martinique this Spring. We had a stream of hummers visiting a feeder. I must have taken a 100 shots and only got one that I was satisfied with. Unfortunately, it was my first time with hummers and I wasn't prepared. I had to figure out all of the above as I shot.

Good luck.

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