Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Obviously neither of us get it.

But our discussion reminds of this old video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSAVEl_RU8o

sloscheider Loc: Minnesota

Things I like about my Macs:
- screen capture any bit of the screen with shift,CDM,4
- fully automatic backup that works built in
- ability to plug one Mac into another and boot as an external drive
- ability to network boot over the internet to reinstall the OS direct from Apple, no disc needed
- never had a virus and never had to keep antivirus installed (in fairness browsers are still susceptible to malicios add ins)
- free OS updates
- stability
- glass multitouch trackpad, until you’ve used one you just can’t understand how truly amazing the dang thing is... I never thought I would like a touch pad more than a mouse but a mouse doesn't work as well or do half as much for image editing!

Things I don’t like:
- difficult to upgrade hard drive in newer models
- price... yea, they’re pricey for the performance. No doubt a well designed pc can run circles around a Mac for the same money. I build my own windows machines and they have their place in my home.

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Things I like about my Windows Machine:

- screen capture any bit of the screen - and be able to annotate it with custom text and graphics (see below)
- fully automatic backup that works - with really good software like Sync Back, which also manages online backup, incremental backup, multiple devices etc.
- ability to connect two PCs and share all connected devices, not just drives, but printers, cameras, etc
- ability to network boot over the internet to reinstall the OS direct from Microsoft, no disc needed
- haven't had a virus (since my kids grew up and left the house - about 5 yrs now) but I keep a couple of free anti-virus installed, because in all fairness, browsers and email are still susceptible to malicious exploits.
- free OS updates, automatically installed, or have the option to review what the update does and control what does and does not get updated.
- Never getting an automatic OS update/upgrade that removed code that was put in to prevent a known malware exploit, making the machine more vulnerable
- stability - very important for me
- being able to choose from a variety of wired and wireless pointing devices - which, for photo editing is a Wacom tablet - not sure why a glass multi-touch trackpad has any advantage over an opaque one like the one that is already provided on the Apple portables.
- Using a wide gamut workflow that is tailored towards the photo industry - and not be forced to use a wide gamut solution that is tailored for video production (Adobe RGB vs DCI-P3)
- Price
- Customization options
- low cost of updates and a fair amount of future proofing - being able to get a machine that can be minimally but adequately configured, with room to expand with faster cpus, more and faster memory, etc.

Sounds like there isn't much difference between the two platforms any more. Because there really isn't except for a few items.

You did forget to mention the PC emulation software that lets you run Windows apps on an Intel-based Mac. That is a big deal for some users.

Things I don't like about Windows:

- can't think of anything right now, I have to ask some of my friends that use Macs so they can tell me things I shouldn't be happy about . . .

[edit] - There is no emulation software that allows me to run Mac-only applications on a PC. I do like Final Cut Pro a lot - but then I have also used Avid - more expensive, but just as good.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Hey Gene. Did you not watch Scott Kelby's brilliant defense of Apple Laptops!!!????!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JvRUiDH2P8

He distilled it, over a very long explanation, to something that an Apple Fanboy can truly appreciate and PC users just don't get:

It has a cleaner look. Mostly the bottom of the laptop.

Gene, it just LOOKS COOLER!!!!

Ok. I don't get it either.

jacklewis014

This is like the early days of NASCAR, when guys would argue the merits of Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge. Different tracks, different crews, different winners; but it never stopped the arguing.
Apple vs PC/MS. Different applications, different users, different preferences; never will stop the arguing.

therwol Loc: USA

An hour and a half! Blah blah blah.

BudsOwl Loc: Upstate NY and New England

I want to thank all who replied and commented. I have read them all to this point and have pretty much decided to stay with a PC. This is my last post on this topic and I will be selecting “unwatch.”
Bud

tomcat

And you and Gene will never, ever get it. Quite frankly, you don't have to get it. I don't bash you or any other pc user for your systems and I don't lay awake at night wondering why someone would want to use a pc. I just accept the fact that there are some folks that like the pc life. So just accept the fact that there are those of us that prefer Apple and its OS and are happy in our own little creative world. I'll take Richard Petty and his Dodge any day over Dale Earnhardt and his Chevy.......