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Jun 17, 2018 14:13:41   #
morkie Loc: Simi Valley CA
 
For years I tried to get acceptable prints with my macbook pro mated to a Dell Ultra Sharp monitor and a variety of cheap printers with absolutely no success. A few weeks ago I bought the Canon Pixma Pro 100 on special for $49 net after rebate. I calibrate my moniter with a Xrite i1Display Pro with native settings and when finished manually reduce the display brightness from 75 to 10 and leave the contrast at 75. During soft proofing I increase brightness of the image about 10% and get great prints on Canon Pro Semi Gloss paper. My takeaways are - 1. don't use a dell anything with a mac product, 2. calibrate the monitor; 3 get a great printer for $49 -- you wont regret it. Just mho

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Jun 17, 2018 14:27:45   #
Largobob
 
gvarner wrote:
I also have the XP 820. If I need a good print, I look to a commercial outfit. All-in-ones have five cartridges, you need six or more to get much better quality. I might do some trial and error post processing if I want my print to be a better match for what I see on my uncalibrated monitor.


Many "all-in-one" printers only have two cartridges.....one black and one color.

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Jun 17, 2018 16:06:11   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Largobob wrote:
An iMac is not a laptop...

It has an outstanding 5K resolution monitor...

I'm guessing it's not the monitor....It's the quality of the printer...


Your guess is wrong.

All monitors require regular profiling - even Apple stuff. It's the quality and accuracy of the profile for both. But if you use OEM paper and ink, you can get by pretty well without needing to profile the printer.

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Jun 17, 2018 16:08:03   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jeryh wrote:
I think you will find that the current retina displays are factory set; I did attempt to do this a while ago- no dice; and really it isn't necessary,
the Apple monitors are first class, as usual. Aftermarket stuff does warrant calibration after a while, even the top stuff.


Nonsense. They are good but they are made by either LG or Samsung, not Apple, and require profiling for best results. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

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Jun 17, 2018 19:12:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Gene51 wrote:
Nonsense. They are good but they are made by either LG or Samsung, not Apple, and require profiling for best results. Thinking otherwise is foolish.


My iMac and I concur!

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Jun 18, 2018 01:45:33   #
MissSue
 
cjc2 wrote:
I also use a iMac 5k to print from. The get acceptable prints, it is absolutely necessary to color calibrate your monitor. I use a Spyder 5 for this purpose and am more than satisfied. From there, you need to know what paper you're using and have the proper icc profile for your combination of paper, ink and printer. Using a printer with 4 inks will never produce anything except a mediocre print, so a printer designed to print photos is also important. I currently use an Epson P 800 for this task, with only OEM ink. I use Red River paper, almost exclusively. Lastly, your software must be set properly so that you are not double managing the process as Bill indicated. It sounds horrific, but once you've actually done it and followed through, it's not bad at all, and the results, and cost savings, are well worth it. Best of luck.
I also use a iMac 5k to print from. The get accep... (show quote)


I have a question on what you and Bill said...I use a Spyder Express to calibrate my Asus Photo monitor that is about 5 years old. When I was in Photo School in college we set all the parameters on the printer when we printed... I understand that. I have a Canon Pro printer and I use OEM inks and papers... my question I think is, When I print do I let my printer decide how it's printed or my software? And is that what you meant my double managing the process?? I know when I send my prints to Costco I am not happy with the outcome... but they are so much cheaper when I am just giving them away... and I have very different results between letting my printer decide and letting Photoshop/Lightroom decide. thank you for your time. Miss Sue

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Jun 18, 2018 09:13:50   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
MissSue wrote:
I have a question on what you and Bill said...I use a Spyder Express to calibrate my Asus Photo monitor that is about 5 years old. When I was in Photo School in college we set all the parameters on the printer when we printed... I understand that. I have a Canon Pro printer and I use OEM inks and papers... my question I think is, When I print do I let my printer decide how it's printed or my software? And is that what you meant my double managing the process?? I know when I send my prints to Costco I am not happy with the outcome... but they are so much cheaper when I am just giving them away... and I have very different results between letting my printer decide and letting Photoshop/Lightroom decide. thank you for your time. Miss Sue
I have a question on what you and Bill said...I us... (show quote)


Please PM me with your email and cell and I'll try to help. Chris.

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Jun 26, 2018 13:13:15   #
Texukdoc
 
Sorry about the late reply. I have not had time to read them on a daily basis. Many thanks to all who contributed to this very helpful discussion. I think if I buy a dedicated photo printer I will not buy another Epson if the same holds true for the photo printers as it does for the all in one, in that the printheads are not removable for cleaning and that has been a problem from time to time.

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Jun 26, 2018 20:34:46   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Texukdoc wrote:
Sorry about the late reply. I have not had time to read them on a daily basis. Many thanks to all who contributed to this very helpful discussion. I think if I buy a dedicated photo printer I will not buy another Epson if the same holds true for the photo printers as it does for the all in one, in that the printheads are not removable for cleaning and that has been a problem from time to time.


I don't think you'll likely find a quality printer with removable print heads. Best of luck.

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Jun 26, 2018 22:31:06   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
MissSue wrote:
I have a question on what you and Bill said...I use a Spyder Express to calibrate my Asus Photo monitor that is about 5 years old. When I was in Photo School in college we set all the parameters on the printer when we printed... I understand that. I have a Canon Pro printer and I use OEM inks and papers... my question I think is, When I print do I let my printer decide how it's printed or my software? And is that what you meant my double managing the process?? I know when I send my prints to Costco I am not happy with the outcome... but they are so much cheaper when I am just giving them away... and I have very different results between letting my printer decide and letting Photoshop/Lightroom decide. thank you for your time. Miss Sue
I have a question on what you and Bill said...I us... (show quote)


You are really missing out on some fine papers for high quality photo realistic prints out there. Check out Hahnemuhle Glossy Fine Art or their Bamboo paper

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