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Jun 18, 2018 22:21:55   #
rochephoto
 
Photoshop and Lightroom both create PSDs and so does P1/C1 and they integrate seamlessly into Indesign and Illustrator workflow. This is a very sophisticated company/software. That is why so many large catalog and web companies use this photo raw processing program. It works better. They have tried it both ways and more. You should try it. The biggest danger in a tech environment is to become a Luddite. At 62 I've seen a lot of slow adopters go by the wayside. That's why iI try new things. PhaseOne didn't get where it is (25yrs) by ignoring Photoshop or refusing to find paths of integration. On the contrary! On the other hand, I think LR has lost its way and has become cumbersome. There are plenty of stories in Tech that play out this way. IBM for one... and who called Apple dead? Aperture looked nice but couldn't evolve. Even Adobe (which wouldn't be around if it was for Apple... Anybody remember QuarkExpress?) makes a mistake. If you're a LR user; Try it Mikey! You'll like it!. At first, you'll think it's a trick or that it's no good because it's not convoluted enough, but I assure you, it'll make your life much easier. It's not used by all these people and Corps. because they like complexity or that it doesn't function at the highest standard. ( oh; I forgot, Oracle uses it too!) It's simply the best in depth raw image processor/organizational software out there. If LR did it better I'd be there in a hot second.

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Jun 18, 2018 22:22:07   #
rochephoto
 
Photoshop and Lightroom both create PSDs and so does P1/C1 and they integrate seamlessly into Indesign and Illustrator workflow. This is a very sophisticated company/software. That is why so many large catalog and web companies use this photo raw processing program. It works better. They have tried it both ways and more. You should try it. The biggest danger in a tech environment is to become a Luddite. At 62 I've seen a lot of slow adopters go by the wayside. That's why iI try new things. PhaseOne didn't get where it is (25yrs) by ignoring Photoshop or refusing to find paths of integration. On the contrary! On the other hand, I think LR has lost its way and has become cumbersome. There are plenty of stories in Tech that play out this way. IBM for one... and who called Apple dead? Aperture looked nice but couldn't evolve. Even Adobe (which wouldn't be around if it was for Apple... Anybody remember QuarkExpress?) makes a mistake. If you're a LR user; Try it Mikey! You'll like it!. At first, you'll think it's a trick or that it's no good because it's not convoluted enough, but I assure you, it'll make your life much easier. It's not used by all these people and Corps. because they like complexity or that it doesn't function at the highest standard. ( oh; I forgot, Oracle uses it too!) It's simply the best in depth raw image processor/organizational software out there. If LR did it better I'd be there in a hot second.

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Jun 18, 2018 23:25:26   #
Beat Color Loc: Hanoi, Vietnam
 
Photoshop are really important for any photographers. There will be photos taken with lack of light, contrast,...and that time photoshop is the great tool to help you out

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Jun 19, 2018 01:21:54   #
rochephoto
 
Check out C1/P1 it do like photoshop for raw processor.

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Jun 20, 2018 09:39:05   #
leonAzul
 
btbg wrote:

What interests me about this entire topic is that everyone advocating a processing software other than photoshop doesn't seem to have looked at what the original post was all about. It wasn't what software works best, it was why do photography workshops use lightroom and photoshop?


Because sometimes the conversation is more meaningful than a succinct answer?

CaptMD wrote:
Insights would be appreciated.

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Jun 20, 2018 11:09:08   #
canon Lee
 
btbg wrote:
For what it's worth I shoot sports and I shoot raw. No reason to shoot jpeg unless you shoot for Reuters. Can process and convert to jpeg to email in 30 seconds or less. When I have time to go to the office they want tiffs for printing anyway, so there is no reason to shoot anything other than raw. Not only that, you can set photoshop up to batch process, so it can do the work and process one memory card while you are still shooting another one. Doesn't really take any time and gives better results especially in low light sports than shooting jpeg will.
For what it's worth I shoot sports and I shoot raw... (show quote)



HI.. There might be a reason to shoot JPEG, when shooting sports or action, because of the faster upload ,(buffering).

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Jun 20, 2018 21:35:43   #
btbg
 
canon Lee wrote:
HI.. There might be a reason to shoot JPEG, when shooting sports or action, because of the faster upload ,(buffering).


I can shoot over 100 photos without buffering if I want to. I have never had a buffering issue with my D5. No reason that I can think of to shoot in jpeg especially in low light situations. I don't shoot more than two or three shots in sequence normally, but I have tested just how many shots the camera can shoot without buffering, and the truth is I haven't found the limit yet, but it's more than I will ever need to shoot for my job.

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Jun 21, 2018 08:22:05   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
btbg wrote:
I can shoot over 100 photos without buffering if I want to. I have never had a buffering issue with my D5. No reason that I can think of to shoot in jpeg especially in low light situations. I don't shoot more than two or three shots in sequence normally, but I have tested just how many shots the camera can shoot without buffering, and the truth is I haven't found the limit yet, but it's more than I will ever need to shoot for my job.


There is one reason you might use your D5 for jpg shooting.

Live view, silent mode. 24 frames/second, but no raw files. Only jpgs.

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Jun 21, 2018 10:02:48   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
btbg wrote:

What interests me about this entire topic is that everyone advocating a processing software other than photoshop doesn't seem to have looked at what the original post was all about. It wasn't what software works best, it was why do photography workshops use lightroom and photoshop? The answer to that question was succinctly given in the first two pages of the post. I have no idea why people have continued posting advocating fand or other software that the op won't even be able to use in the workshops he is considering taking.
br What interests me about this entire topic is t... (show quote)


There were several answers to this in the first few responses. I said:

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They have become the de facto standard due to longevity, integration with other graphics programs, and massive marketing.



Several others provided their opinions in an equally direct manner.


This discussion got sidetracked into the "Which is better?" but it has also produced a lot of interesting thoughts on the "Why?" questions pertaining to particular packages. I'm very happy to be growing my vocab in the lingua franca of PP, but I have learned a LOT about choosing particular packages for particular circumstances or purposes.


This thread is one of the ones that led to my "Here's to the Crazy Ones" post. Thanks to all who've made meaningful contributions.

Andy

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Jun 26, 2018 03:52:14   #
ez22 Loc: The World
 
Totally agree. Photoshop is king.

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