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Jun 4, 2018 07:50:55   #
dhillme Loc: Springfield, Missouri
 
I agree with Darkroom317. I have BFA in Photography and although the other associated art mediums you learn seem may superfluous, they are worth it. Depending on your ultimate photographic goals, I might suggest a Minor in Business. Go for it.



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Jun 4, 2018 08:03:31   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
To each his own.
dhillme wrote:
I agree with Darkroom317. I have BFA in Photography and although the other associated art mediums you learn seem may superfluous, they are worth it. Depending on your ultimate photographic goals, I might suggest a Minor in Business. Go for it.

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Jun 4, 2018 08:39:30   #
Picsee
 
Would it open up employment or business opportunities for you?

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Jun 4, 2018 09:45:08   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Charlie157 wrote:
I was going to suggest Brooks Institute but I just found put that after 70 years they are closing. Don't know why, but they were a school that had a good reputation. A co-worker (not in photography) went to Brooks, he did product photography for several cooperations. After many years working he got tired of it. Met a guy with a photography store in Zion canyon. Really good photographer, great prints. He had an AA degree from a local Community College. Read up on biographies of photographers you respect, see if they went school and what schools they went to. Correspond with them if you can. Of all things be clear on what you want do with what you learn. Understand what you want to be, as a final product. Good luck
I was going to suggest Brooks Institute but I just... (show quote)


Brooks Institute underwent several sales. Back when they were owned by the Brooks family it was my understanding that it was great school.. It was then sold to a couple of different for profit college companies. It appears that these companies heavily degraded the quality and reputation of the institution. I thought about going there but the lawsuits about them overstating their post graduation jobs rates and the expense of the school were highly concerning.

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-brooks-institute-closure-20160815-snap-story.html

http://archive.vcstar.com/news/local/ventura/what-led-to-brooks-institute-in-ventura-closing-so-abruptly-3a32de7c-6b02-5967-e053-0100007fc2ec-390738451.html?page=1

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Jun 4, 2018 10:13:35   #
Indiana Loc: Huntington, Indiana
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I found an art school that has a BFA. They also have a certificate which is about half the work of the BFA. The BFA is in digital photography as well as the certificate also.

I already know quite a bit about photography and the associated post processing software. But I looked at the course descriptions and I think I could learn a tremendous amount more and really take my photography to a new level.

What do you guys think? I’ve been taking “pitchers” LOL for many years but have never really felt like I was totally proficient. I know it’s hard to know everything but I need to discipline myself if I’m going to learn from like YouTube or other instructional Internet classes.

The problem is I won’t make myself sit down and learn unless I’m striving for a grade and I have other people that I’ve teamed up with in a project that I don’t want to let down. This is why I think going to a college for photography would force me to learn.

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Well, there is nothing quite like the academic classroom: professional instruction, Q&A, graded assignments, student interaction, competency challenges, and of course, the grade.

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Jun 4, 2018 11:36:33   #
Ricopix
 
I'll agree with you on the outrageous expense of a college education today. I went on a teaching assistantship so they paid me and all tuition was taken care of as well.The benefits of my photo education came from the people I met along the way. One of my professors was Beaumont Newhall, the guy that wrote the book on the history of photography. At the time I had no idea who he was. First day of class he pulls out an Ansel Adams portfolio, then a Paul Strand folio, a Minor White folio and he had more stashed away elsewhere. Photo is easy, what makes it exciting are the photographers, people who have devoted their lives to exploring the medium and evolving their vision. Photography is available to everyone (even more so today with the iPhone etc.) and it's much more than cute pictures of little kids and cats and dogs. Contrary to popular belief new cameras don't make your pictures any better or worse, they just make them more expensive. If you spent as much time developing a vision as you do figuring out which program to use, which button to push, which lens, what focal length etc.,etc., you would be way ahead of the game. Feedback from others, particularly other photographers and picture makers is a big part of the learning process and the reason schools and classes exist. Sure, you can do it in a vacuum but then all you've got is your own opinion. How biased could that be?
Personally I never enjoyed a career as a "professional photographer" although I did give it a go for several years. Guess I'm spoiled but I always considered photography a pleasure and doing it commercially turned that pleasure into a chore.
Going on fifty years as a photographer and I'm back to square one shooting with a view camera on 5x7 film. How's that for progress! Just wish someone made an autofocus view camera.

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Jun 4, 2018 11:47:17   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
burkphoto wrote:
Great story! Join the 48 Hour Film Project if you’re into cinematic video. It’s tons of fun and you’ll learn from plenty of creative people. http://www.48hourfilm.com

My family and I (as Twinscape Films) will be doing it again this June in Greensboro, NC.


Burkphoto I have appreciated your intelligence and knowledge of photography etc for a long time. Your posts are always to the point and
informative. One of the interesting issues with education today in the lack of flexibility. I had a good reputation in Philadelphia when I move there from NY.
The gentlemen who ran the Art Institute there hired me because of my awards and my work on McDonald's. I had no degree from Art Institute even though I attended for a couple of years in the evening. It as nota college degree. Today they would not have hired me and that great experience wouldn't have happened.

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Jun 4, 2018 14:09:43   #
jwohlhueter
 
It sounds to me like you have fallen into the photography doldrums. I experience this myself. I enjoy the creativity, shooting and processing. My family and friends enjoy my work, but sometimes it's hard to get motivated to get out there and shoot. Before plunking down big money for classes look seriously into workshops. Find professionals workshops that concentrate on teaching how to use your camera and post processing. Combining shooting with travel and seeing new places will get the juices flowing. I did a 10 day "lessons/workshop" trip on the Oregon Coast last fall. At every location the professional spent time with each of us to make sure we understood our camera settings and why we were using each. When I finished that workshop I felt like I had professional skills. Learning to shoot on site in a small group with cameras in hand and a pro to answer your questions is, in my mind, way better than critiquing photos on a video screen in a classroom. Just my opinion.

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Jun 4, 2018 16:22:11   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
fotoman150 wrote:
I found an art school that has a BFA. They also have a certificate which is about half the work of the BFA. The BFA is in digital photography as well as the certificate also.

I already know quite a bit about photography and the associated post processing software. But I looked at the course descriptions and I think I could learn a tremendous amount more and really take my photography to a new level.

What do you guys think? I’ve been taking “pitchers” LOL for many years but have never really felt like I was totally proficient. I know it’s hard to know everything but I need to discipline myself if I’m going to learn from like YouTube or other instructional Internet classes.

The problem is I won’t make myself sit down and learn unless I’m striving for a grade and I have other people that I’ve teamed up with in a project that I don’t want to let down. This is why I think going to a college for photography would force me to learn.

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An excelent idea. working with like minded people (of all ages) in a structured manner, to set goals, is the quickest way to learn 'anything'. Try not to think of yourself as having a 'head start'.....but listen to what other people have to say. There will be a breadth of experience present in 'class'.

Remember it is also a competition...there can only be so many 'A' grades. The better the students are in your group - the harder it is to get a great final grade.

As a mature student....gaining a qualification is secondary to 'enjoying being encouraged to learn again' (rather than getting a set result...ie Work!) So be open to exploring things in depth rather than 'how to do'. Read and reference 'around' each topic....You are never 'wrong' if you can quote references that back up your argument.....

I did a BA aged 45.....'just because I wanted to' and it was a great three years!!!!

have fun.

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Jun 5, 2018 07:59:04   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Agree with this opinion: "Before plunking down big money for classes look seriously into workshops. Find professionals workshops that concentrate on teaching how to use your camera and post processing."

This experience will produce a foundation that gives you confidence.
jwohlhueter wrote:
It sounds to me like you have fallen into the photography doldrums. I experience this myself. I enjoy the creativity, shooting and processing. My family and friends enjoy my work, but sometimes it's hard to get motivated to get out there and shoot. Before plunking down big money for classes look seriously into workshops. Find professionals workshops that concentrate on teaching how to use your camera and post processing. Combining shooting with travel and seeing new places will get the juices flowing. I did a 10 day "lessons/workshop" trip on the Oregon Coast last fall. At every location the professional spent time with each of us to make sure we understood our camera settings and why we were using each. When I finished that workshop I felt like I had professional skills. Learning to shoot on site in a small group with cameras in hand and a pro to answer your questions is, in my mind, way better than critiquing photos on a video screen in a classroom. Just my opinion.
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Jun 6, 2018 02:41:29   #
fotoman150
 
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Once again I ask a question and I get every conceivable possible opinion that I could think of and some that I would never think of.

I think I’m going to take a step back and I’m going to go through the process as if I’m going to school but I’m going to take a hard look at this thing. Right now I’m leaning towards not doing it.

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Jun 6, 2018 05:54:12   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
You could always go for classroom instruction for a structured, formal approach to learning photography, after trying alternatives.
In fact, you'd likely gain more from this instruction due to your previous experience with the alternatives.

My basic guidance: Learn composition and exposure along with the importance of subject. All in photography flows from these three elements.

As a craft, photography requires practice over time to become skilled at it.

In the process learn from your mistakes and successes.

That's about the size of it.

Good luck.
fotoman150 wrote:
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Once again I ask a question and I get every conceivable possible opinion that I could think of and some that I would never think of.

I think I’m going to take a step back and I’m going to go through the process as if I’m going to school but I’m going to take a hard look at this thing. Right now I’m leaning towards not doing it.

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Jun 7, 2018 00:29:06   #
Besperus Loc: Oregon
 
Fine arts, it may suit you well as an invidual. You may want to start out in a community college to get the basics out of the way. There are a number of books which are quite good. If you have done that, throwing yourself head long into photography will help. Narrow your interests to a specific area, fine arts? Great! I started there and went into journal ism from portrait/studio work trying to make a living for my family with some success when there are so many “photographers” doing the same thing cheaper. Fine arts, requires the best quality equipment and attention to detail. Most of all persistence and do not be afraid to buck the trends and follow your own vision. Good Luck! And, enjoy.

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