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Jun 1, 2018 13:19:31   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Just received the following:

https://www.reviewgeek.com/4308/canon-officially-discontinues-its-last-film-camera/?utm_source=howtogeek&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

Dik

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Jun 1, 2018 13:30:29   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
Wouldn't the demise of film cameras have much to do with decreased film manufacure, decreased developing services. Isn't Kodak just a name these days. What are the real, evidence-based advantages of film over electronic semiconductor sensors anyway.

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Jun 1, 2018 13:34:02   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
You have to get in to the high end digital cameras to approach the resolution of film cameras... Not yet approaching the resolution of my 8x10 Graflex... maybe soon, though.

Dik

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Jun 1, 2018 13:59:40   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
John_F wrote:
What are the real, evidence-based advantages of film over electronic semiconductor sensors anyway.

Except for maybe 1/10,000th of cameras that need to use some sort of film for some rare specialized use, IMHO those that still use film because they are "purists", "traditionalist" or whatever probably are just trapped in the past. Same as those who find no use for a smart phone or the Internet.

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Jun 1, 2018 14:03:16   #
bmike101 Loc: Gainesville, Florida
 
Dikdik wrote:
You have to get in to the high end digital cameras to approach the resolution of film cameras... Not yet approaching the resolution of my 8x10 Graflex... maybe soon, though.

Dik


phase one? I just found out about it today Costs as much as a couple of cars.
https://www.cnet.com/news/phase-one-all-the-camera-55k-can-buy/ look at the zoom images of san fransisco

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Jun 1, 2018 14:12:19   #
Ron Dial Loc: Cuenca, Ecuador
 
Well, I have several digital cameras, but my SINAR 4 x 5 shooting MACOPHAT B&W infrared, still shoots better than any digital camera. The 4x5 slows you down and makes each deliberate. MACOPHAT is the only B&W infrared film with absolutely no grain. And 4x5 color transparencies are still better than any digital image, even Phase One. I have won awards with pictures shot with that camera, then wet scanned to produce high quality digital prints. No digital camera approaches what you can do with a 4x5. But yes, it takes more time and more skill than a digital image. So yes I guess I am trapped in the quality of the past, even though I shoot a lot of digital.

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Jun 1, 2018 14:16:10   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
Ron Dial wrote:
Well, I have several digital cameras, but my SINAR 4 x 5 shooting MACOPHAT B&W infrared, still shoots better than any digital camera. The 4x5 slows you down and makes each deliberate. MACOPHAT is the only B&W infrared film with absolutely no grain. And 4x5 color transparencies are still better than any digital image, even Phase One. I have won awards with pictures shot with that camera, then wet scanned to produce high quality digital prints. No digital camera approaches what you can do with a 4x5. But yes, it takes more time and more skill than a digital image. So yes I guess I am trapped in the quality of the past, even though I shoot a lot of digital.
Well, I have several digital cameras, but my SINAR... (show quote)




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Jun 1, 2018 14:37:24   #
Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada
 
Imagine what my 8x10 is capable of, then. Last time I used it was about 15 years ago... expensive film. It has detail that a digital could only dream of. I'm not knocking digital; my 7D takes photos that I'm really 'happy' with.

Dik

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Jun 1, 2018 14:59:41   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
As others here have stated here, digital photography has many obvious benefits, especially for those in search of instant gratification. On the other hand, film photography is IMO far from being “dead”. I just aquired a nice Canon 35mm film camera in hopes of - not being trapped - but rather getting back to my photography roots. /Ralph

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Jun 1, 2018 15:06:05   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
I would imagine that most people still shooting film already have film cameras, which don't go obsolete nearly as fast as digital cameras. And those starting out who want to shoot film can get used film cameras at very good prices, so there is little demand any more for new film cameras.

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Jun 1, 2018 21:23:03   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I am sure Buggy Whip manufacturers went through the same business cycle in the 1900s.

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Jun 2, 2018 07:14:23   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
I am sure Buggy Whip manufacturers went through the same business cycle in the 1900s.



Yes there are still buggy whips being made but in a very narrow niche market that Canon and others decided did not make financial sense.
Like it was pointed out it took 8 years to sell the back stock out.
It was the absolute dominant camera in it's day and out performed by astronomical ratios over any other 35mm film camera on the market. Hyper fast focus capabilities that were only dreamed of by others.
But with digital came the falling of film.
Instant knowledge of did you get the shot rather than hoping all went well at that moment.
Ability to work with images on the spot if desired and many other advantages over the slow film.
Quality is at a level now that that discussion is moot.
How many people send letters in the mail every time they wish to communicate? I send PDFs by email or other digital platforms. I have an entire plan review corporation now refusing paper drawing submittals and only will take digital submittals.
Yes film will survive but only as a niche product for those curious as to what it is, like there are some that still do tin types and wet plate glass photos as a curiosity.

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Jun 2, 2018 10:20:30   #
agillot
 
you have to be fair about this , what a 8 by 10 digital sensor could do compared to a film ??? .you cant compare a 35 mm sensor to a 8 by 10 view camera .more info s on the 8 by 10 with fine grain film . digital today is just amazing .

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Jun 2, 2018 14:26:39   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 


I thought they discontinued these long ago.

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Jun 2, 2018 17:38:15   #
BBurns Loc: South Bay, California
 
The EOS-1 was Canons flagship when they made the transition to full auto-focus along with the new EOS mount.
I still have a T90 which was the test bed for the EOS-1. It has all of the same features with the exception of 3.
1. Still retains the FD mount.
2. No auto-focus.
3. No auto bracketing.
The T90, truly an unsung hero from the film days.

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