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Zoom V’s crop
May 30, 2018 09:24:34 #
As a novice I am intrigued by the length of zoom. Is it a better image when you crop or zoom all other variables the same? I am considering a travel camera in particular either the lumix zs200(24-360 zoom) or the lumix zs70(24-720 zoom). Will cropping compensate for the smaller zoom? I prefer the zs200 because of the 1 inch sensor but I think the long zoom might be better for travel such as a safari. Thanks
May 30, 2018 09:29:21 #
Short answer: Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not, unless it is "digital zooming".
May 30, 2018 09:33:57 #
I'd rather zoom in-camera than crop in post if I can.
With zooming you still have all of the pixels at your disposal.
When you crop, you are basically enlarging the pixels of the cropped portion.
The more you crop in post, the more pixelated the image will become.
With zooming you still have all of the pixels at your disposal.
When you crop, you are basically enlarging the pixels of the cropped portion.
The more you crop in post, the more pixelated the image will become.
May 30, 2018 09:34:37 #
SonyA580 wrote:
Short answer: Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not, unless it is "digital zooming".
May 30, 2018 09:47:01 #
SonyA580 wrote:
Short answer: Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not, unless it is "digital zooming".
Right On!
May 30, 2018 10:08:27 #
SonyA580 wrote:
Short answer: Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not, unless it is "digital zooming".
Not to nitpick, but isn't this misleading? "Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not..." implies that losing those pixels is a bad thing. But it's not a bad thing if your aim is to retain only part of the image and discard the rest.
As Longshadow says, when you crop, you're enlarging the pixels of the cropped part of the image. That's the bad part, not the loss of pixels you didn't want anyway; right?
May 30, 2018 10:12:49 #
cameradoc1420 wrote:
As a novice I am intrigued by the length of zoom. Is it a better image when you crop or zoom all other variables the same? I am considering a travel camera in particular either the lumix zs200(24-360 zoom) or the lumix zs70(24-720 zoom). Will cropping compensate for the smaller zoom? I prefer the zs200 because of the 1 inch sensor but I think the long zoom might be better for travel such as a safari. Thanks
The 1 inch sensor will give you some crop room and a better image when doing shots that are not going to need cropped. For me, the longer end of the zooms are more for wildlife, so I would only go with the zs70 if I was going to be shooting wildlife. If it was going to be more places and people I would go with the zs200.
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May 30, 2018 10:16:05 #
srt101fan wrote:
As Longshadow says, when you crop, you're enlarging the pixels of the cropped part of the image. That's the bad part, not the loss of pixels you didn't want anyway; right?
As Longshadow says, when you crop, you're enlarging the pixels of the cropped part of the image. That's the bad part, not the loss of pixels you didn't want anyway; right?
Cause and effect. If you zoomed in and used all the pixels available, you wouldn't be enlarging any.
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May 30, 2018 13:00:38 #
srt101fan wrote:
Not to nitpick, but isn't this misleading? "Cropping takes away pixels. Zooming does not..." implies that losing those pixels is a bad thing. But it's not a bad thing if your aim is to retain only part of the image and discard the rest.
As Longshadow says, when you crop, you're enlarging the pixels of the cropped part of the image. That's the bad part, not the loss of pixels you didn't want anyway; right?
As Longshadow says, when you crop, you're enlarging the pixels of the cropped part of the image. That's the bad part, not the loss of pixels you didn't want anyway; right?
When you zoom you cut out what you don't want in the picture but you use all the pixels of your sensor.
When you crop you cut out pixels to get only what you wanted. If the sensor and mega pixel count are the same the cropped image will thus be lower resolution and limit print size etc.
May 30, 2018 21:22:18 #
Without getting scientific at all, the simplest answer might be that if cropping works as well as using a telephoto lens, there would be no need for a telephoto lens. We would all be using a 100 mm lens (or less) and crop away!
May 30, 2018 21:26:47 #
fredtoo wrote:
Without getting scientific at all, the simplest answer might be that if cropping works as well as using a telephoto lens, there would be no need for a telephoto lens. We would all be using a 100 mm lens (or less) and crop away!
Yup! I'll only add that as sensors get more capable, this will mean even less.
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May 31, 2018 06:47:46 #
My 6mp D50 pix still look pretty good at 8x10 and 12x15 so with my 24mp APS cameras, I have no problem with cropping. BUT, I think it’s better practice to frame properly in the camera when possible.
May 31, 2018 07:55:22 #
ToBoldlyGo
Loc: London U.K.
Physically zooming in can result in nicer backgrounds versus cropping. Plus, yes, ultimately you might end up with higher resolution.
May 31, 2018 08:05:08 #
May 31, 2018 09:50:10 #
That's a heavy lens to carry around. You can always get a multiplexer.
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