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May 26, 2018 06:20:57   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
The newb here again......

Have been reading here and elsewhere on line about many PP software options: darktable, Affinity, Luminar, On1, Faststone, Capture 1, etc., etc.

I am going to download the free trial of Luminar today and give a go on some of my images. But, if I like what I see,
I believe I am going to order Luminar (while on-sale). The reviews are strong and mostly positive, the user interface looks good and the company seems interested in continual improvements. It is non-destructive and I believe they have (or soon will add) a management/organize facet. The editing functions seem able to grow with the photographer (basic or advanced tools).

Before I do so, does anyone here have reasons to not follow the Luminar plan?
(Oh, and I will also download Nikon View NX-1 and Capture NXD)

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May 26, 2018 06:58:51   #
ejrmaine Loc: South Carolina
 
Luminar 2018 is a powerful and easy to learn post processor. Jim Nix has several tutorials to help you through the learning curve.

You can use this discount code for $10 off: 'Tidelandsphoto'

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May 26, 2018 08:46:46   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
Mac or PC? Most of the complaints seem to be from PC users.
IMHO they jumped the gun trying for the windows market.
I posted a few preset "tryouts" a few weeks ago.
Search under "Luminar" - not an overwhelming amount of
posts to sort through. Good luck, and post some of your results.

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May 26, 2018 09:21:00   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
I use a MacBook Pro

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May 26, 2018 09:44:27   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Welcome. All roads lead to Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic. Run, Forrest, run! Why pass on the best photo editing software in the world? There are those here that hate Adobe and they hate to spend a dime on anything. You can join or follow them or you can expand your horizons. I actually have all these programs you have mentioned. Most of them will work as a plugin to Photoshop and some into LR. Duh! Some of them have features I like really well and I use them in plugin mode. When push comes to shove, you are better for learning PSCC and LR and then expand. The hair on my neck sticks out when a hogger slams Adobe and encourages newbies to not spend anything on equipment or software. I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years. Meanwhile, our heirs appreciate what will get passed along so they can get that special something. Good grief, Lucy.
frjeff wrote:
The newb here again......

Have been reading here and elsewhere on line about many PP software options: darktable, Affinity, Luminar, On1, Faststone, Capture 1, etc., etc.

I am going to download the free trial of Luminar today and give a go on some of my images. But, if I like what I see,
I believe I am going to order Luminar (while on-sale). The reviews are strong and mostly positive, the user interface looks good and the company seems interested in continual improvements. It is non-destructive and I believe they have (or soon will add) a management/organize facet. The editing functions seem able to grow with the photographer (basic or advanced tools).

Before I do so, does anyone here have reasons to not follow the Luminar plan?
(Oh, and I will also download Nikon View NX-1 and Capture NXD)
The newb here again...... br br Have been reading... (show quote)

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May 26, 2018 09:59:46   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
"The hair on my neck sticks out when a hogger slams Adobe and encourages newbies to not spend anything on equipment or software. I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years."

Well said with good humor!

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May 26, 2018 10:11:53   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
I fit the "advanced in age" part. But do not consider myself "cheap." Depending on your definition, I may be a bit "frugal."
I like to think that I am a pragmatist: I buy what will nicely fit my present needs and give some room to further grow into. If I outgrow, I buy a more advanced and satisfying piece.
When I bought my airplane, I did not buy a 747. I bought a nice Piper twin that would do the job I need done.
When I buy a truck, I do not buy a Freightliner. I buy a nice pickup truck that will do what I need done.

So, in this case (although I fully understand your position) I believe this software will do what I want and need to do for now.

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May 26, 2018 10:23:53   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
DavidPine wrote:
Welcome. All roads lead to Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic. Run, Forrest, run! Why pass on the best photo editing software in the world? There are those here that hate Adobe and they hate to spend a dime on anything. You can join or follow them or you can expand your horizons. I actually have all these programs you have mentioned. Most of them will work as a plugin to Photoshop and some into LR. Duh! Some of them have features I like really well and I use them in plugin mode. When push comes to shove, you are better for learning PSCC and LR and then expand. The hair on my neck sticks out when a hogger slams Adobe and encourages newbies to not spend anything on equipment or software. I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years. Meanwhile, our heirs appreciate what will get passed along so they can get that special something. Good grief, Lucy.
Welcome. All roads lead to Photoshop CC and Lightr... (show quote)

However, an issue that you don't mention is that many people here are not that computer savvy. For them to understand the basics , much less master, Lightroom and Photoshop, will require an extensive commitment of their time and access to proper training materials. Even then may people will struggle. Not eveyones' end game is the same. That's why programs like Picasa are so popular. I was not that impressed with Luminar, but for a newbie to post processing it may be just the thing to get them into the game without turning them off. As for the cost, some seniors on fixed incomes do have to worry about an extra $10 every month forever, vs an initial cost of $69 and even less with a coupon.

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May 26, 2018 10:32:27   #
d3200prime
 
DavidPine wrote:
Welcome. All roads lead to Photoshop CC and Lightroom Classic. Run, Forrest, run! Why pass on the best photo editing software in the world? There are those here that hate Adobe and they hate to spend a dime on anything. You can join or follow them or you can expand your horizons. I actually have all these programs you have mentioned. Most of them will work as a plugin to Photoshop and some into LR. Duh! Some of them have features I like really well and I use them in plugin mode. When push comes to shove, you are better for learning PSCC and LR and then expand. The hair on my neck sticks out when a hogger slams Adobe and encourages newbies to not spend anything on equipment or software. I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years. Meanwhile, our heirs appreciate what will get passed along so they can get that special something. Good grief, Lucy.
Welcome. All roads lead to Photoshop CC and Lightr... (show quote)


"I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years." I'm sure many aged members will overlook your rude and thoughtless comment.

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May 26, 2018 10:33:30   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
mwsilvers wrote:
However, an issue that you don't mention is that many people here are not that computer savvy. For them to understand the basics , much less master, Lightroom and Photoshop, will require an extensive commitment of their time and access to proper training materials. Even then may people will struggle. Not eveyones' end game is the same. That's why programs like Picasa are so popular. I was not that impressed with Luminar, but for a newbie to post processing it may be just the thing to get them into the game without turning them off. As for the cost, some seniors on fixed incomes do have to worry about an extra $10 every month forever, vs an initial cost of $69 and even less with a coupon.
However, an issue that you don't mention is that m... (show quote)


Good points mwsilvers. I am somewhat computer savvy and not broke. But, your point on "getting into the game without getting turned off" is pertinent. This is all new to me. I have barely ever edited any photo ever taken with my P&S's and phones. I like learning and growing in whatever I do. Now I want to learn and grow in photography. And I want better images. So a modest beginning that I hope will grow way beyond Luminar. For now, it should be a good "teacher."

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May 26, 2018 10:38:29   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
My knee-jerk reaction doesn't have anything to do with what we do individually. It kicks me when hoggers tell newbies that cheap is the way to go. My wife is wonderful and she is cheap. It drives me insane because it isn't reality. I have been frugal to a point that I have ended up buying two or three times to get what I should have gotten in the first instance. "Stupid is as stupid does." For $10 a month, a newbie is probably going to end up with Adobe at some point. When you learn the conventions of contrast, clarity, black point, white point, sharpness, dehaze and so on you can run almost any program. Why not start with the accepted standard bearer, to begin with. I contend that we do a disservice to newbies when we run them down other roads.
frjeff wrote:
I fit the "advanced in age" part. But do not consider myself "cheap." Depending on your definition, I may be a bit "frugal."
I like to think that I am a pragmatist: I buy what will nicely fit my present needs and give some room to further grow into. If I outgrow, I buy a more advanced and satisfying piece.
When I bought my airplane, I did not buy a 747. I bought a nice Piper twin that would do the job I need done.
When I buy a truck, I do not buy a Freightliner. I buy a nice pickup truck that will do what I need done.

So, in this case (although I fully understand your position) I believe this software will do what I want and need to do for now.
I fit the "advanced in age" part. But do... (show quote)



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May 26, 2018 10:40:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Whenever anyone says there is only one way I figure they are a cult member and must repeat the mantra 24 hours a day.

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May 26, 2018 10:51:09   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Oh, I don't think I was thoughtless or rude. Maybe you need a safe place to avoid people like me. I am very advanced myself. Many of us older folks live in a homeowner association. I live in a couple. Now, these folks give a new meaning to cheap. I fight cheap where ever I find it. Frugal is different than cheap. I have a landscape photographer friend who travels in his van, drinks water and eats some sort of health bar. He describes how little he spends a week on a trip. The reality is that he is quite wealthy, advanced in years and no heirs. Go figure. I won't travel out of town with him. I have been a hogger for a good while. This is the first time someone has accused me of being rude so I hereby appoint you "hall monitor".
d3200prime wrote:
"I have determined that many members here are advanced in age and being cheap, not frugal, is a disease of people in advanced years." I'm sure many aged members will overlook your rude and thoughtless comment.

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May 26, 2018 11:01:42   #
frjeff Loc: Mid-Michigan
 
Geesh! Did not mean to start a battle here. Just a newb and maybe I should not have posted this in the first place. Sorry.
As the OP, I did not take DavidPine's comments as rude (and I am well advanced in age - 74). His opinions I welcome like any other. We just have different views on how we make our buying decisions. That's why there so many brands and iterations of all products.

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May 26, 2018 11:12:28   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Avoiding the discussion of age, frugality and rudeness, I think there are a couple of critical and key component to post processing advice to newbies/beginners that are skipped over.

First is that that the programs in the Adobe $10/month has such an abundance of learning options.

Second is to stick with the one you pick first.

Third is that the learning curve is only steep if you think you have to master everything in your chosen program. In fact, if you want to open, crop, adjust and post a picture from any software you can learn that in minutes.

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