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May 25, 2018 20:45:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
bkyser wrote:
OK, I'm lost.
I use all Paul C buff, mostly Ultra 1200 and 1600s, and have been looking at getting a vagabond mini or 2 to power them on location.

Here's the thing, I have noticed they average between $220 and $280 for used on ebay, but they go for $235 new from Paul C Buff?

Most of my used stuff comes from Cameta, Adorama, or B&H... so my question is, is most stuff that overpriced on Ebay? Seems like I could buy stuff from Buff, sell it as new instead of used, and get at least the $280. Doesn't anyone actually do research before they bid?

Anyway, for those that purchase from ebay, is it like this for all photo equipment? I'm thinking I need to start selling my stuff and get more than it's worth.
OK, I'm lost. br I use all Paul C buff, mostly Ult... (show quote)


Lots of STOOPID people buy stuff on eBay! You can find bargains there, but CAVEAT EMPTOR. Same can be said for Amazon.

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May 25, 2018 20:47:12   #
Bigmike1 Loc: I am from Gaffney, S.C. but live in Utah.
 
Thanks for the information. I don’t fear EBay. I’m just not into it.

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May 25, 2018 20:51:19   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I thought eBay says that 80 percent of their site's sales are buy it now...

olemikey wrote:
EBAY is an "auction" style venue...so it requires a lot of due diligence to ensure a good purchase at a good price. I'm quite successful at it (but that doesn't mean I haven't bought a couple of "turkeys"). It is easy to get cought up in a deal (auction fever) and end up paying an artificially higher price. When I decide I'm interested in an item, I look at all other sources, try to determine a realistic $$ figure, and bid based on that... determine my opening bid and how far it makes sense to go with additional bids. Product research and asking specific question of the seller helps greatly. Due to EBAY and Paypal rules and regs, most buyers/sellers are eager to resolve any negative actions with a reasonable solution. For instance, I bid and win a lens I want - but upon receipt it does not live up to the stated condition - so, if usable, I can either negotiate for price reduction, or simply return it for a refund. The downword price negotiation method works well if the item was simply overpriced for what it is (pay $200.00, receive lens, works but not as pretty as hoped for, negotiate downward and end up with a usefull tool for $75, or give it up and send it back). If a seller is uncooperative, they may have had poor judgement or simply bad intent...but the message is "buyer has recourse". Checking what items actually "sold for" is very important - gives a realistic picture of what things are actually worth. I never even start to bid until I have looked at all the aforementioned parameters....

Some things I've found interesting about the EBAY venue:
- You can tell a lot about the quality of a deal by the presentation / picture - number and quality / serial number easily seen / description and I always look at their other offerings to try and determine if they are a reseller, or just someone clearing out their closet.
- Lack or detail can be "lack of knowledge" or it can be "deception". Sometimes it can be hard to determine, and thats a factor all through life....poke at them enough and you will determine "go - no go".
- Don't Pooh Pooh pawn shops (Goodwill, and shops tied to charity can be OK, but often lack knowledge, or can't test an item, etc.), I've bought some very nice pieces at fair prices from them...they don't want issues, and (just an observation) seem pretty honest in general (not always the case with individuals) plus they are required in many states to run the numbers with local law enforcement to limit "stolen" merchandise - individuals, not.
- If it sounds tooo good - toooo cheap - or info is sketchy, move on...if seller responds in an uninformative manner...move on.
- Many EBAY sellers ship priority mail so you actually get the item quickly - even if it is free shipping. Much faster than Walmart for instance!
- To avoid "price runs" I never bid till the end of an auction, generally in the last minute.....no sense in bidding until the end, just put it on your "watch list" and wait till it is time. If you can't be there, pick your high dollar limit and bid, you either win or lose.
- If you don't like bidding, look for the "buy now" and "best offer" listings.

I don't know if any of this helps....but my message is "Don't fear EBAY", use it for the great tool it is...and use DUE DILIGENCE in your purchases.
EBAY is an "auction" style venue...so it... (show quote)

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May 25, 2018 21:42:30   #
Naldo
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I have saved thousands of dollars by purchasing used equipment on ebay and have been very satisfied as my gear almost without exception has arrived in like new condition. Having said that I am not sure why anyone would pay close to or more than retail for something that they could simply purchase new. If the savings aren't there then don't purchase on ebay, go new with manufacturers warrantee.


Me too

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May 25, 2018 21:55:57   #
Naldo
 
olemikey wrote:
The "sold for" search in the sidebar will tell how much an item sold for and when. I don't believe that it reflects "adjustments" for disputed transactions. If I receive something that does not live up to the ad, I contact the seller and start a "what do we do with this situation" conversation. I never insult or insinuate, just state my reason for unhappiness. 98% of the time this results in negotiation and I get a agreed upon refund amount, often greater than 50%, sometimes as much as 75% (kind of "tells" how much the seller has in an item). Any experienced buyer/seller knows that if a call for assistance is made, EBAY will "fix" the issue, including forced refunds, block the perp from EBAY, etc. Most US sellers with very high "good business" percentages can be counted on for good service. Off continent, I don't know, I stay with North America only. I always contact the seller for description where I'm unsure..I've had sellers email a jpeg so I could check shutter actuations if they don't know how, etc.

All that said, I'd rather buy from EBAY than say Walmarts/Amazons 3rd party vendors - I've had some pretty ragged dealing with them, and not much help from wally/amazon for resolution.

Yes luck plays a part, but that goes way beyond EBAY. I'm an honest person, and do good business....if I get a feeling about a seller, I slow down and start checking.

2cents worth!
The "sold for" search in the sidebar wil... (show quote)


The above post by olemikey is exactly on-point. Ebay has become one of the safest ways to buy online. They figured out a long time ago that if buyers didn't trust the system, their business was going to go downhill fast. Ebay is not simply an auction site, but an intermediary who takes responsibility for making sure your transaction stays right-side-up.

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May 25, 2018 22:37:20   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Ebay has largely been ruined by favoring buyers over sellers and it has in many ways just become a market for a number of sellers selling the same stuff at the same price. Too many sellers are just out there trying to use it as their own Amazon... eBay has also made people realize that things they thought were scarce or rare are not nearly so rare or hard to find... Now they seem to be begging people to list by offering hundreds of free listings...

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May 25, 2018 22:46:26   #
Naldo
 
Yes, Ebay has tilted the system in favor of the buyers. . . and that's a very good thing for the buyers.

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May 25, 2018 23:14:22   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
I don't know what I think about this.......I speak from experience..I have made numerous great buys (I'm very happy with them) and compared to original msrp, I'm in by approx. 13%, compared to current (spreadsheet tech) I'm in by around 26-32% against current across the board pricing. I feel very good about my purchases....I'm not buying for you, I'm buying for me...I have objectives, they may not match yours. I use venues that I feel are safe and reasonably honest... I have a technical engineering and contracts background, so I can and will determine how I feel about specs, price, visual presentation, etc. I'm not a rich man, I have limited resources, I make what I consider are measured, researched, legitimate moves when I buy. I fear local buy venues much more than something like EBAY...hell, folks have been ripped off buying in front of our local PD station....I haven't. My offered opinions are just that..spoken from experience....not trying "shine" anyone, just sharing alternative possibilities. Yes I'm able to deal with a little risk...heck it wouldn't be any fun of it was all easy peasy. I know and recognize the comments about uniform market pricing.....you can't let your self fall victim. My god...there are a ton of you on this forum who have great experience, those who produce great images, spread a wealth of great experience, and some(many) who like to share....help your fellows who strive to attain your perspective....its not hard and its really fun....................

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May 26, 2018 15:39:10   #
ringmaster
 
Ebay is for the most part no longer a place where the average hobbyist, collector or small time seller lists items for auction. In almost every category retailers and professionals have taken over and they list items at the same prices you would pay anywhere. Most use the buy it now feature. Quite frankly I don't know how any of them sell anything unless it's a rare item and someone absolutely has to have it.

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May 26, 2018 17:28:07   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
bkyser wrote:
OK, I'm lost.
I use all Paul C buff, mostly Ultra 1200 and 1600s, and have been looking at getting a vagabond mini or 2 to power them on location.

Here's the thing, I have noticed they average between $220 and $280 for used on ebay, but they go for $235 new from Paul C Buff?

Most of my used stuff comes from Cameta, Adorama, or B&H... so my question is, is most stuff that overpriced on Ebay? Seems like I could buy stuff from Buff, sell it as new instead of used, and get at least the $280. Doesn't anyone actually do research before they bid?

Anyway, for those that purchase from ebay, is it like this for all photo equipment? I'm thinking I need to start selling my stuff and get more than it's worth.
OK, I'm lost. br I use all Paul C buff, mostly Ult... (show quote)


If your not knowledgeable about equipment you should never buy from ebay (or anywhere else for that matter). Knowledgeable buyers can get great deals off ebay. When I am looking at used Nikon lenses I often find a lens that might be listed for hundreds of dollars more than list, if your dumb enough to buy at that price, that's your problem. But for me, I look for deals, I like to buy mint in the box at a competitive price. And yes, when I sell equipment on ebay I usually get 50-70% more for it than if I traded it in (and that includes fees).

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